From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 19:20:18 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87czp4lg3p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87k4bovfd0.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87eea09rwg.fsf@gnus.org> <878s05wxx8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuisras8.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee9wh4kh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <82a9592e-b05a-399c-419e-fcbb3e829b35@gmx.at> <87czpfymhj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <44514af3-09b8-8b6b-c436-cfc5f899142a@gmx.at> <87fsu8pdcp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87lf40nwol.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <875122a9-0ff9-4479-97dc-3860466a2b11@gmx.at> <871r5px383.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y27vk6pd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878rzv8obc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <76b6ea1e-1256-2205-b6df-cde10330da53@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21767"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 9054@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 19 18:29:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgs-0005Xe-6V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:29:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53580 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgq-0005fe-DA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzge-0005dp-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgc-0004Ud-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgc-0002Un-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 16:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9054 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 9054-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9054.16320689299555 (code B ref 9054); Sun, 19 Sep 2021 16:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9054) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2021 16:28:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgP-0002U3-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:37257) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzgL-0002TW-O2 for 9054@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD452240003; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 16:28:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <76b6ea1e-1256-2205-b6df-cde10330da53@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2021 09:36:17 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214746 Archived-At: > To be useful for beginners, the context menu should not delegate such > tasks to functions like 'describe-symbol'. As I mentioned before, I'd > even avoid using terms like 'symbol' there. What I would prefer is that > when I right-click on 'setq' in a form like > > (setq x 3) > > the context menu proposes > > Describe `setq' > Lookup `setq' in Manuals > Show Definition of `setq' > Show References for `setq' But what to do with long symbols? For example, this won't fit to any menu: Describe `display-fill-column-indicator-character' Lookup `display-fill-column-indicator-character' in Manuals Show Definition of `display-fill-column-indicator-character' Show References for `display-fill-column-indicator-character' > and in addition, if the mouse is say on the 'e' of setq, > > Describe character properties of `e' > > to run `describe-char' on that `e' so that users are aware of the > granularity of the objects they deal with. There is the menu “Describe” in the submenu “Help” on the manu-bar, but I don't see “Describe Character” in it. But there are other Describe menu items. > Clicking on "x" OTOH should reveal that the Lisp reader doesn't know > (yet) about "x" while clicking on "3" should reveal that the Lisp reader > considers it an integer. I don't know what to show for an integer. > BTW: Show/Hide in the Options menu should allow to toggle context menu > mode. Maybe in the next version context menu mode will be enabled by default.