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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 04c485df7e9dfae4fb9bdc6e72a08385; Tue, 02 Aug 2022 13:33:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83czdi26qj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 02 Aug 2022 15:02:44 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20447 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238552 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , rpluim@gmail.com, >> 56691@debbugs.gnu.org, hello@paulwrankin.com >> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 19:57:55 +0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Yes, but is it reasonable to expect such a system? I mean, if someone >> > builds an Emacs capable of displaying color Emoji, isn't it reasonable >> > to expect him/her to install a suitable font as well? Color Emoji are >> > a "hot" feature, so I'd expect that. >> >> The problem is that Emacs is built with color Emoji support by default. >> Most people do not know the necessary compile-time options to turn that >> support off. >> >> > Also, do distros come without a color Emoji font nowadays? Because >> > Symbola AFAIK needs to be installed, it isn't by default, so if a >> > color Emoji font _is_ available OOTB, I think the chances for the >> > problems you mention are very small, and/or are easily fixed. >> >> Symbola comes with most systems OOTB. I remember Firefox displaying >> Emoji using that font not too long ago, on a fresh install of RHEL 7.9. > > I still feel it's wrong for a capability predicate to load > fonts etc., and generally be potentially very slow and expensive. Maybe we could only look for fonts once (on each terminal), and then cache the result?