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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3d9edde4cda6e64ea72f4a0254303172; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:50:38 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87y1p8cqqs.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Wed, 08 Feb 2023 11:59:23 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21161 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255120 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: > Please, do not use appeal to ridicule. But that's the point. Most people will find ridiculous that the following paragraph: Other people use ``kill files'', but we here at Gnus Towers like scoring better than killing, so we=E2=80=99d rather switch than fight. = They do something completely different as well, so sit up straight and pay attention! makes the subsequent four paragraphs describing score files less clear: All articles have a default score (`gnus-summary-default-score'), which is 0 by default. This score may be raised or lowered either interactively or by score files. Articles that have a score lower than `gnus-summary-mark-below' are marked as read. Gnus will read any ``score files'' that apply to the current group before generating the summary buffer. There are several commands in the summary buffer that insert score entries based on the current article. You can, for instance, ask Gnus to lower or increase the score of all articles with a certain subject. There are two sorts of scoring entries: Permanent and temporary. Temporary score entries are self-expiring entries. Any entries that are temporary and have not been used for, say, a week, will be removed silently to help keep the sizes of the score files down. similarly, most people will also agree that being written in English does not prevent them from understanding Emacs documentation. If you glance at the first paragraph, and decide to stop reading after that, it is not a problem with the Gnus manual. It is a reading comprehension problem on your part. If you really find that the first paragraph impairs the clarity of the next four, contextually independent, paragraphs, then you are part of a very small demographic. Several months ago, someone came up with the idea to delete all amusements from Emacs, and move them to ELPA (or something along those lines.) Asking us to delete every joke that someone finds confusing is not far from those lines, and is in fact a very slippery slope leading directly to that proposal.