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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d929519fd37980a0fb02093d21f1ede5; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:05:57 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2023 04:24:01 -0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256064 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I suggest this alternative and much more minimal patch, which only > removes the most unnecessary references to "sex" (replacing it with > "meme", which is what most of the internet is about these days) but > keeps the reference to something as innocuous as a "date" (which in > standard American English could mean just having dinner) and "naughty" > (which according to Merriam-Webster means "engaging in or marked by > childish misbehavior"). > > If this is acceptable, I suggest installing this and moving on. The problem with this approach is that alt.sex is a real hierarchy. ``alt.meme'' is not, so it reduces the accuracy of the joke. Trying to censor this part of the Gnus manual is like trying to censor the Usenet: it won't work. It is sad that the unsuccessful attemts at censorship from important people and organizations, including American congressmen and major Internet service providers, have been reused by those pushing modern, for lack of a better phrase, PC rhetoric, against newsreaders. One of the few standpoints unrelated to free software taken by the GNU project is the opposition to censorship. No matter if the demands for censorship come from individuals, or if they come from the Communications Decency Act, they must be resolutely opposed.