From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:28:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87cz64fm2q.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <873577570z.fsf@localhost> <875yc2s89n.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h6vkbgot.fsf@localhost> <87mt5aj626.fsf@localhost> <87ilfweeci.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19395"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "luangruo@yahoo.com" , "61325@debbugs.gnu.org" <61325@debbugs.gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas , Drew Adams , "rms@gnu.org" To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 20 15:29:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pU7AU-0004ou-PK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:28:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ilfweeci.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Mon, 20 Feb 2023 12:00:29 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NmKfYzaXN4ERKuao6H81EwuEO0d8PY+FFUR3GbrnbzqngFoJJqJ /asPIk8IvQLDhADrbLEXp0WBicnsru6SUPOHTxrtdV9DN6s8z6AgmhtczFBHS/Bv9mrA+uE hDEESzFUHOhoYlNKaWiLFD3ROppwbCHTrb0F8R23PAWFZo5RhAj3Yx0ssrKlYbrv/RkI9R0 DhcBKV9mBtVTbArb5voTQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:6TZ4npf0NAc=;oedBuWFEG7WkfhOAo9cAVnPl9hx 3BdV4f2otXqP2Vs4AFkWjXKwjoBIJeiadWbE445bzcC/VVj9HRfqVpNUvpCd2shAkX3nRtaQv jcY8mA/nbFJ7lOaxdi3Cz9jI9Bb8dQ0gGIIKbXrmjUgfjQOVZv6dGc6V7fMLKfy6hPtlUmNYH uDqFbssUQ4ZYAl3nnzyYBRjgFuq7DtDrkm/o6Jj3aIzJZKZqkcupUU9vM9rIBPhNrzwDWA6tj Qbso44XPPvkoz8YKI9uMwgUGbrBwlcWaXTgaSrPb3+cBeD+NS9WrLC5lFWD1fZ8HQwzL+kc2w 8uLI8hDgqttCKMx1XmD37kqrhaJg5z0DdHM2uHUFAHK2nLqzHdbUNRMMq3OvWdSGPzQN8j+fb c6epweEgjPwH9fnuWnz0YtnhKtdX9YgmOiUvdFQXbP6WU20cAEfFWfBHxf4uco1dnTdxt/tGY 69knfHnkcyyxFi71939LVqzIA2SQBAXDfIMWmOvsW2FB4+zYniBeO1cwx8j3PUYc5Tu9Wm4ut ScA/6UZImWBRpl8YHC7POHTqtUjAd70yPxWAlWa9led0VW2F9J7f3b7vkEVBwPC5dGr4akkp+ dzYvMIscrZRAOR2FdtV5e5fGiVPEgUL+CXP/WrR5teGo0aSFavxfHjf/EXUe+btfA+TieJ4kC JubVa4GBsywkb5OJcry21ALsWxOkw9aeabUv1F/1iw7T0LQy0cIC9yR40Jg3YmUMa4sj77jqP rAc6Vw1MhBS+4cMyOjZ8B45S+9aPSnA2eFf3ePCN+mlK4xfCJ3gHHGOzaDax3LTUSjlFO91M X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256184 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: Hi Ihor, > Drew Adams writes: > >>> I suggest this alternative and much more minimal patch, which only >>> removes the most unnecessary references to "sex" (replacing it with >>> "meme", >> >> Let's not forget to sanitize "sexp" to "memep". ;-) > > This is a different case. > "sexp" is an abbreviation often used in the code. It is also defined in > "10.1 Introduction to Evaluation" of Elisp manual, although not commonly > used in the manual itself (as footnote explains). > > Technical terms are necessary for understanding. They are also > well-defined in ways clearly unrelated to "sex" in your example. > > In contrast, the topic of sex in the discussed jokes is intentional and > refers to the concept of sex. Could it be that you don't understand *any* joke? Like the one from Drew? Best regards, Michael.