From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command
Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 17:32:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyq26bt8.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86seyzi2by.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 03 May 2024 14:04:17 +0300")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 13:59:00 +0300
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>
>> > From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
>> > Cc: 69097@debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>> > Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 10:48:13 +0000
>> >
>> > > More to the point, can you explain why we need this, given the
>> > > existence of kill-word?
>> > >
>> > > Also, this kills backward, something that is not evident, neither from
>> > > the name of the command nor from the doc string (and the obscure
>> > > reference to Unix doesn't help, IMO).
>> > >
>> > > Finally, having another command that kills the region doesn't seem
>> > > justified, or is it?
>> >
>> > The motivation is sort of the same as with generalising `upcase-word' to
>> > `upcase-dwim'. If there is no active region, it behaves like
>> > `backward-kill-word' (which is what C-w does in a terminal as well), but
>> > if there is an active region it reverts to `kill-ring-save'.
>>
>> If so, then (assuming we decide to accept this change), the name of
>> the command should be something like kill-word-dwim, and the doc
>> string should mention the two commands you refer to above.
>>
>> > I have this in my personal configuration for ages, and it is always
>> > one of the first things I re-implement when using an Emacs without a
>> > custom init.el.
>>
>> Any reason why you need this command and cannot settle for the two
>> commands it replaces heuristically? Are you using Emacs with
>> transient-mark-mode on or off?
>
> And one more question: currently C-w signals an error if there's no
> region. So another idea is to extend C-w to delete the word at point
> if there's no region (where "no region" means "no active region" if
> transient-mark-mode is ON, otherwise it means "no mark set").
That is basically what my command does (with the difference that I don't
just check if (mark) is non-nil but also if (use-region-p) is non-nil),
just not part of kill-region. I don't know if this is too invasive, if
users are used to this error being signalled. Perhaps it can be
protected by a user option?
--
Philip Kaludercic on peregrine
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-13 9:55 bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-17 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87ttm7gi9i.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-19 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87sf1obkw9.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <871q93rzv8.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-25 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87frxgn73g.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-27 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-03 7:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 10:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 17:32 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-05-03 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 19:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-04 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 6:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 9:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 16:29 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 16:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 17:08 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 18:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 17:05 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 17:53 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 0:21 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:46 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:51 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 8:47 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07 8:47 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 16:47 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 16:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
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