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Hi Morgan, > I wanted to make a quick suggestion on the debbugs info manuals names. > I think we should name the user manual "debbugs" and the programmer > manual "debbugs-programmer-manual" (NOT "debbugs-pm"). > > Currently the info manual is called: debbugs-ug.info > The programmer info manual is called: debbugs.info > > This means people typing "info debbugs" will get the programmer info > manual, not the user info manual. > > When I was first starting to use debbugs I skimmed the programmer info > manual accidentally and got quite confused trying to find the > information I wanted. I ran "info debbugs" and opened the section > "searching bugs" hoping to find the user commands, not elisp ones. > > The programmer manual does mention the user manual but as I was skimming > for something specific, not reading it carefully, I missed that. Although I understand your reasons, I'm not convinced that this is worth the trouble. The manuals exist for 13 years (debbugs.texi) and 10 years (debbugs-ug.texi). It night confuse prople, if we rename them. Furthermore, there are references to both manuals from outside. Those references would be broken. > Thanks, > > Morgan Best regards, Michael.