bug#378: mesg is y in *shell*

bug#378: mesg is y in *shell*

[jidanni]

Odd, unlike all the other shells and windows on my computer,
M-x shell
$ mesg
is y
In xterm they are n. (However other users can't write(1) to the *shell*
buffer, y or n. I tested it with wall(1).)
P.S., (apropos (quote ("mesg")) nil) shows
  In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
  and type RET to get full documentation.

  mesg
  nomesg
But RET does nothing.

bug#378: mesg is y in *shell*

[Stefan Monnier]

> Odd, unlike all the other shells and windows on my computer,
> M-x shell
> $ mesg
> is y
> In xterm they are n. (However other users can't write(1) to the *shell*
> buffer, y or n. I tested it with wall(1).)

No idea if this is a bug or even if it's important nowadays.  Other than
shutdown messages, I haven't seen `write' used in the last 10 years.

> P.S., (apropos (quote ("mesg")) nil) shows
>   In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
>   and type RET to get full documentation.

>   mesg
>   nomesg

Please report this in a separate message.


        Stefan

bug#379: apropos mostly a rummage heap

[jidanni]

I was told to report this in a separate message. OK, here goes:
j> P.S., (apropos (quote ("mesg")) nil) shows
j>   In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
j>   and type RET to get full documentation.

j>   mesg
j>   nomesg
j> But RET does nothing.
Actually the problem is bigger: (apropos (quote ("a")) nil) gives:

  If moving the mouse over text changes the text's color, you can click
  mouse-2 (second button from right) on that text to get more information.
  In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
  and type RET to get full documentation.

      attribution
  &allow-other-keys
  &aux
  &optional
  *random-state*
    Variable: (not documented)
  --args--temp--
  --category--temp--...

And indeed all make some yellow when the mouse moves over them here in
X windows (which is bad usability, making one move the mouse over
something to tell what it will do), but only the ones marked
"variable" etc. will show anything when clicked.

Indeed, the impression is just a jumble of stuff found with UNIX
stings(1), with only a small percent useful in that one can learn what
they are about.

bug#379: apropos mostly a rummage heap

[Stefan Monnier]

> Actually the problem is bigger: (apropos (quote ("a")) nil) gives:

>   If moving the mouse over text changes the text's color, you can click
>   mouse-2 (second button from right) on that text to get more information.
>   In this buffer, go to the name of the command, or function, or variable,
>   and type RET to get full documentation.

>       attribution
>   &allow-other-keys
>   &aux
>   &optional

Can't reproduce that.  Neither with the CVS trunk, nor with Emacs-22.2,
nor Emacs-21.4.


        Stefan