From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Ryde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5808: 23.1; substitute-in-file-name $NOSUCH vs ${NOSUCH} Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:02:20 +1100 Message-ID: <87bpe1e73n.fsf@blah.blah> References: <87ljd9cpi8.fsf@blah.blah> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270254370 29251 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2010 00:26:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5808@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 03 02:26:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxrBc-0004Qd-84 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:26:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxrBb-0000fm-JA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NxrBU-0000fK-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55563 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxrBS-0000eg-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:25:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxrBQ-0004Pj-T4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxrBQ-0004Pe-Pm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:25:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxqpK-0001iq-AC; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kevin Ryde Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5808 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5808-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5808.12702529566606 (code B ref 5808); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5808) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2010 00:02:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nxqot-0001iV-WF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout1-4.pacific.net.au ([61.8.2.211] helo=mailout1.pacific.net.au) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nxqoq-0001iQ-Mt for 5808@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.162]) by mailout1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347552E258; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:02:26 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: from blah.blah (ppp2AFC.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.42.252]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6088C08; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:02:25 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: from gg by blah.blah with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nxqoe-0001f1-Me; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:02:20 +1100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:29:53 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:03:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:35887 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > > I made the change in Emacs-22 so that most uses of $ in file names can > work without needing the quoting by double-dollars. Sounds likely. > Admittedly, > the resulting inconsistency is not great, so I guess that the > discrepancy is a misfeature/bug, Unless it's thought of as ${FOO} is certainly an expansion, whereas $FOO is instead maybe an expansion and maybe a literal $, such as on VMS, is it? If the docstring described the way it worked that'd be enough.