From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7583: 23.2; ido loads tramp too eagerly Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:02:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87botfpn4e.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8739esu4p6.fsf@gmail.com> <8739eslo7f.fsf@gmx.de> <87y5wkskfd.fsf@gmail.com> <87ty78rvlf.fsf@gmail.com> <878vojya45.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318871005 23312 80.91.229.12 (17 Oct 2011 17:03:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7583@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 19:03:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqau-00046D-A0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:03:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52815 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqat-00011O-NY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqam-00010u-Ai for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqak-0002yR-Q0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqak-0002yL-I0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqbZ-0006ht-W0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7583 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7583-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7583.131887102525757 (code B ref 7583); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2011 17:03:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqbJ-0006hO-KA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RFqbH-0006hB-LV for 7583@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so3592436eyg.3 for <7583@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=boU+W3ZYrlY3w+HUeokJrtGx39sEv/lvi3Ee83C5Wgc=; b=gHYwnXF8AwuHn1ZuAFLc6BuOsYkj8k84FE47R+p+8sU8w3Q+DJe4jBosSs4X8diyeZ +qUkbxUbqq/moQUrsb6Rik3fKuLH+yiVHw9fa5s9pyMmXuB9ArGSGwL5wcHB69aIdPq2 VLzy3t6BjDDNBltdoXl7nm6l+R4jBDDpiQ2dQ= Original-Received: by 10.14.24.155 with SMTP id x27mr1389385eex.243.1318870965588; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from thierry-MM061 (129.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net. [79.85.211.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4sm31154191eeb.0.2011.10.17.10.02.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:44:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:04:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52729 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> without starting tramp >>> I do not know what that means. >> I mean trying to connect to a remote host via tramp. > > So you're saying that Tramp tries to connect to "toto" when you type > "/toto:"? Yes, but that is what we expect. (/toto: should be a valid hostname maybe set in ~/.ssh/config) What we don't want is when you write: /ssh: => tramp try to connect or /sudo: ==> tramp try to connect we expect tramp to connect only when we have: /sudo:: and not before (i.e before entering the second ":"). > If so, I think the problem is indeed the same as for > icomplete and ido and the solution is to bind the variable > `non-essential'. Yes maybe. But I have no problem here with my code (anything), it seem the problem is in ido and/or icomplete. And to implement completion on method/users/hostname, `non-essential' is no help for me, i will use something else later, as described in one of precedent post. Anyway i am glad to now existence of `non-essential'. Thanks. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997