From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19603: 24.4.51; Improve emacs startup message. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98365 Archived-At: Hi, Now emacs packages are widely used, it would be great to improve the startup message of emacs with a link about how to quickly setup package.el to be usable. I have regularly people complaining "It is not working" because they install packages through package.el and they don't add in their init file `package-initialize', or they try compiling autoload file etc... I have provided a link in my Readme file to redirect to a brief documentation on how to use all this, but apparently many don't read this... WDYT ? In GNU Emacs 24.4.51.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.8) of 2015-01-11 on dell-14z Repository revision: b544ab561fcb575790c963a2eda51524fa366409 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11501000 System Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: git-gutter-mode: t psession-mode: t golden-ratio-mode: t winner-mode: t global-undo-tree-mode: t undo-tree-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t eldoc-in-minibuffer-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t recentf-mode: t savehist-mode: t eldoc-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t helm-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t helm-adaptive-mode: t helm-match-plugin-mode: t helm-occur-match-plugin-mode: t helm-autoresize-mode: t tooltip-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done Auto-saving...done Do you really want to mark all articles in gmane.emacs.bugs as read? 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