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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 19:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87blxr2okn.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87zhlbaf5d.fsf@kiddo.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="42112"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Robert Pluim , 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Alessi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 18 20:20:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0h-000Ari-0j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:20:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40216 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0g-0001Fh-2X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0d-0001Fb-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0c-0007am-4g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0c-0007ab-0B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoB0b-0004H0-QW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:20:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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All >> Robert> affected characters can be found here: >> -->=20 >> Robert> https://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Greek_Unicode_duplicated_= vowels#Affected_characters >>=20 >> I took a look at greek.el, that shouldn't be difficult. What about >> GREEK OXIA vs GREEK TONOS as standalone characters? Should we replace >> the former with the latter? > > Very well spotted. Actually, the latter is the right one=E2=80=94that is: > Greek Tonos, U+0384=E2=80=94while the former, Greek Oxia (U+1FFD) belongs= to > the group that was deprecated. So it is the other way round: keep the > former, and make the latter go. AFAICT the link you provided does not say anything about oxia the standalone character. I'm still interested in seeing some documentation on this deprecation that is not from digitalclassicist.org. Thanks, --=20 Basil