From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37926: [PATCH] Unify Gnus select methods Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:04:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87bltz21w4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87zhhoh9kn.fsf@dick> <87a79mcmoi.fsf@gnus.org> <87h83tsew0.fsf@dick> <87imo9azh4.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgndht6t.fsf@dick> <878sp5arwy.fsf@gnus.org> <87r22w2ij7.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="217106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 37926@debbugs.gnu.org To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 29 13:06:42 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQGn-000uIw-R3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:06:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQGm-0007mr-Ko for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43631) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQGB-0006zj-AB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQGA-0002Tc-26 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQG9-0002TW-Up for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQG9-00074t-Nb; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:06:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 37926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37926.157235070627132 (code B ref 37926); Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2019 12:05:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQFG-00073Y-IW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:55442) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQFD-00073N-KU for 37926@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iPQF9-0008Tv-Oh; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:05:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r22w2ij7.fsf@dick> (dick r. chiang's message of "Tue, 29 Oct 2019 02:05:32 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170364 Archived-At: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com writes: > It doesn't fix anything. I think Eric Abrahamsen adequately describes the > change in a parallel thread. Not really -- he says that it complicates things, but not exactly is meant to be achieved by the patch. > The introduction of a separate `gnus-secondary-select-methods` rather than > merely vectorizing `gnus-select-method` seems a youthful indiscretion that's > persisted to the present-day. No, it was done to retain backwards compatibility. > The "insider" convention of specifying a primary of `nnnil` to > symmetrize one's other backends has caused a collective double-take > among newer users like myself. Very few people use the nnnil thing -- all it gives you is that you don't get any unprefixed groups. So again I ask you -- what does your patch do? Does it make all the groups prefixed? If you can't explain what the patch does, it doesn't seem likely to be applied. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no