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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: 41438@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#41438: [PATCH] Allow windmove keys to be bound without prefix or modifiers
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 14:39:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bl8ysws6.fsf@icterid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977EC9FF1898339BCD25CCE96259@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:43 +0200")

Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:
>>
>>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>>>> +(defvar windmove-default-map (make-sparse-keymap)
>>>> +  "Map used by `windmove-install-defaults'.")
>>>
>>> Sorry if I ask, but wouldn't ordinary windmove-mode-map do here?
>>
>> You are probably right -- my thought was that the minor mode exists for
>> the sake of the map.
>
> Yeah, exactly in this case. I am not sure if I understand correctly, you
> mean people will set new map for the mode to change bindings?

No, that is why the minor mode is active by default. The only reason the
minor mode is defined is to modify minor-mode-map-alist.

>> That's the question: should windmove-default-map be accessed by default
>> or only via the -default-keybindings functions? Either way something
>
> I think you are thinking about default keybindings reather than default
> map. If I assume correctly. If I understand corectly you would like to
> preserve some default bindings, the map is just a mean to accomplish it.

I am not sure what you are referring to, the map is manipulated by
windmove-install-defaults, which in turn is used by

* windmove-default-keybindings
* windmove-display-default-keybindings
* windmove-delete-default-keybindings
* windmove-swap-states-default-keybindings

So it is not just about preserving some default bindings, but ensuring
that the explicitly requested bindings are installed correctly.

>> should be changed, if windmove-default-map it should be renamed to
>> windmove--default-map to explicitly mark it as an internal
>> map. Otherwise it shsould be renamed to windmove-mode-map as you suggest.
>
> Either use default map stored some "default var", and add a function
> that restores mode map, or just add a function that resets keybindings
> into mode map directly, which might be sufficient. I don't know matter
> of taste? A default mode map in a variable is cleaner but more costly?
>
> Emacs provides windows, so I think there should also be a default way of
> moving cursor between them, manipulate them and so on. Thus I think
> windmove operations should be on by default, I don't think C-x 1/2/3/o
> are satisfying when we have more then 2 widows.
>
> A minor mode is probably a good balance between altering Emacs defaults,
> so not break someones config, and to give people an option to easily
> turn on some useful feature/configuration.

I'm sorry, either I am missing something or we are talking besides one
another.

-- 
	Philip K.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-25 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 16:56 bug#41438: [PATCH] Allow windmove keys to be bound without prefix or modifiers Philip K.
2020-05-21 22:18 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-22 18:26   ` Philip K.
     [not found]   ` <(message>
     [not found]     ` <from>
     [not found]       ` <Juri>
     [not found]         ` <Linkov>
     [not found]           ` <on>
     [not found]             ` <Fri>
     [not found]               ` <22>
     [not found]                 ` <May>
     [not found]                   ` <2020>
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     [not found]                     ` <01:18:18>
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     [not found]                         ` <87v9kn7rnk.fsf@bulbul>
2020-05-22 19:15                           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-23 22:12                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-06-26 19:46 ` Philip K.
2020-06-27 23:53   ` Juri Linkov
2020-06-28  8:30     ` Philip K.
2020-06-28 23:37       ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-05 18:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-05 23:40           ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-06  9:28             ` Philip K.
2020-08-06 23:43               ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-07 10:53                 ` Philip K.
2020-08-08 23:54                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-12 20:38                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-12 21:27                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-22 20:29                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-22 21:09                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-23  6:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-23 12:36                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25  5:12                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25  7:25                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25  9:53                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 11:16                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 11:42                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 13:31                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 14:39                                 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2021-05-25 11:36                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 11:46                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 13:58                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-25 19:13                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25 19:16                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-25 19:25                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-25 20:18                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-25 21:45                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-26 21:35                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-27 11:09                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-30 22:11                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-31  8:50                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-05-31 20:15                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-31 21:27                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-03 20:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-07-30  4:01 bug#42611: 26.3; edit-abbrevs lets me type and commit, but doesn't store anywhere and abbrevs don't work Brett Randall
     [not found] ` <handler.42611.B.159608273314264.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <(Brett>
2020-10-17  8:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-27 10:36   ` brett.randall
     [not found]     ` <(brett>
     [not found]       ` <randall's>
     [not found]         ` <"Tue,>
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2020-10-27 10:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-27 10:49       ` Brett Randall
2020-10-27 11:08         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]           ` <(Lars>
     [not found]             ` <Ingebrigtsen's>
     [not found]               ` <12:08:50>
2020-10-27 11:19           ` bug#42611: (no subject) Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]             ` <877drbhq6c.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]               ` <handler.42611.C.160379757411378.notifdonectrl.0@debbugs.gnu.org>
2020-10-27 22:22                 ` bug#42611: 26.3; edit-abbrevs lets me type and commit, but doesn't store anywhere and abbrevs don't work Brett Randall
2019-04-21 19:30 bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files' Drew Adams
2019-07-09 14:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11  5:51   ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-11 14:04     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-11 14:18     ` Drew Adams
2019-07-12  3:20       ` Mike Kupfer
2019-07-12  3:33         ` Drew Adams
2022-01-22 14:43     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] <Your>
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     [not found]         ` <Jul>
     [not found]           ` <2019>
     [not found]             ` <07:18:26>
     [not found]             ` <16:21:24>
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