From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 21:50:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87bl1uojxd.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83blnje5ro.fsf@gnu.org> <838sine4si.fsf@gnu.org> <837dy7e3wr.fsf@gnu.org> <-ZmNQQ07JD7L0I5EpXolv4t1UhWBGc4SN0dkJml3cLbBjO6ucAMUzAqsI9Ca69xO_hzlMLfaLs6bY9vq8GAR24RUGu1LZqVoVkXhiJcFgtg=@protonmail.com> <835zdre31u.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9lpluez.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <874koxwi1t.fsf@gnus.org> <86pmqa51cz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16891"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 40774@debbugs.gnu.org, ndame@protonmail.com To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 05 21:51:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtyTi-0004D4-CZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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I think I opined that we probably shouldn't introduce any semantics for these functions here, because it might break people's code in subtle ways. So if we want this, we should probably introduce a new facility of some kind (and perhaps obsolete the old one), to have an orderly transition. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no