* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
@ 2022-07-12 1:49 Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-07-12 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 56507
Severity: wishlist
Suggestions for the "Options" menu:
1. Remove "Highlight Active Region".
2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text
editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it
without the menu.
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2022-07-12 1:49 bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-07-12 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 6:50 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-12 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-07-12 2:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 56507
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:49:39 -0500
>
> Suggestions for the "Options" menu:
>
> 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region".
>
> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
>
> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text
> editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it
> without the menu.
Cursor blinking control is definitely not standard.
Anyway, I object to changing this on these grounds, because by this
logic we could remove any setting from that menu.
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-07-12 6:50 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-07-12 6:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Stefan Kangas, 56507
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Cursor blinking control is definitely not standard.
>
> Anyway, I object to changing this on these grounds, because by this
> logic we could remove any setting from that menu.
Agreed. I think there is also at least one other program on my system
where "Blink Cursor" is in the options (or perhaps file?) menu.
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 1:49 bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-07-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-12 11:42 ` Colin Baxter
2022-07-12 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2022-07-12 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 56507
> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
>
> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text
> editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it
> without the menu.
None of the text editors that I tried has a blinking cursor by default.
Maybe because they use the system settings where I disabled cursor
blinking in Keyboard preferences. So this menu item could be removed
not sooner than Emacs will respect these system settings as well.
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2022-07-12 11:42 ` Colin Baxter
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2022-07-12 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Stefan Kangas, 56507
>>>>> Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
>>
>> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any
>> text editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and
>> will do it without the menu.
> None of the text editors that I tried has a blinking cursor by
> default. Maybe because they use the system settings where I
> disabled cursor blinking in Keyboard preferences. So this menu
> item could be removed not sooner than Emacs will respect these
> system settings as well.
Please don't remove Blink Cursor from the Menu bar. I set the cursor to
blink via my ~/.emacs; however, I often want to stop temporarily the
cursor from blinking and this I do this via the menu.
Why remove something that has worked well over the years? Who gains?
Best wishes
Colin Baxter.
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 1:49 bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2022-07-12 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-12 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-07-12 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 56507
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> Suggestions for the "Options" menu:
>
> 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region".
>
> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
>
> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text
> editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it
> without the menu.
I think the point here is to have an easy way to disable both of these
things (since both are things that many people find annoying), so I'd
rather keep them in the menu.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-07-12 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-12 14:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-07-12 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 56507
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
>
>> Suggestions for the "Options" menu:
>>
>> 1. Remove "Highlight Active Region".
>>
>> 2. Remove "Blink Cursor".
>>
>> For both of these, this is the standard behavior in almost any text
>> editor, and any user that wants to customize them can and will do it
>> without the menu.
>
> I think the point here is to have an easy way to disable both of these
> things (since both are things that many people find annoying), so I'd
> rather keep them in the menu.
How about moving these two items to "Options -> Show/Hide"? They seem
to fit in well with the other items in that submenu.
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* bug#56507: Suggestions for the "Options" menu
2022-07-12 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-07-12 14:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-12 14:38 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-07-12 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: 56507
Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:
> How about moving these two items to "Options -> Show/Hide"? They seem
> to fit in well with the other items in that submenu.
Hm... perhaps -- we've got things like Tooltips under Show/Hide which
is in the same class as Blinking Cursor, sort of. But only sort of.
I think I prefer to keep those options as is.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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