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From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: 57503@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:43:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bks0368n.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)


The variable `package-selected-packages` should not be saved to the users init
file (or whatever `custom-file` points to). This was discussed before on
emacs-devel but wasn't resolved:

<https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-02/msg00958.html> but 

The gist of it is that if you keep your configuration under version control,
having package-selected-packages written to your config file is inconvenient if
you share your config across multiple machines but do not want to have the exact
same set of packages installed on each.

Even if you do want to keep the exact same set of packages on each machine, you
still need to be careful about installing them, because the order of package
installation affects the order of package-selected-packages, and so does
deleting and reinstalling a package. As a result, I often experienced
meaningless VC conflicts that needed to be resolved.

IMHO the value of package-selected-packages should be written to a separate
file, so that it's possible to put it under version control or ignore it,
independently from the rest of one's configuration.


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 of 2022-08-03 built on Lenovo
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-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments





             reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31 12:43 Joost Kremers [this message]
2022-09-02 13:11 ` bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-02 13:17   ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-02 13:17   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-02 14:33     ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-03  9:52       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 10:17         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-03 12:25           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 15:32         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-04 10:52           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-05  7:37             ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 11:16               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-05 11:51                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 13:14                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 19:04                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06  8:18                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-06 10:34                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06 13:49                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-06 14:30                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-06 16:45                           ` jakanakaevangeli
2022-09-07  0:09                             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-07  5:38                               ` jakanakaevangeli
2022-09-07  9:55                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-07 12:39                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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