From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Welsh Duggan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62248: 29.0.60; nil obsolete Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 02:52:57 -0400 Message-ID: <87bkkq1rg6.fsf@md5i.com> References: <875yay3hco.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <875yay3hco.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37143"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com To: 62248@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 07:54:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQST-0009T1-Qd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 07:54:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQS3-0005Yr-H4; 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a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=md5i.com; s=dkim; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KFOdhIW2xXvCz55hlAokfp8XmGsvZazpUk0q5R2TtIQ=; b=vP941gXloUe/DkLZ9dnSf/3+7/ lu30bLRa/A37bLxxMX6qr6s67NgUobqBYcykH7fB9jVNozKUkdhhO1lVMXEeMEaJieOzwh7Nw3/oY eXbZgKKl62MqNm0jM9aL9PnKJ; Original-Received: from abode ([192.168.177.1]:39552 helo=miko) by md5i.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pdQR0-00HKth-0m; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 02:52:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875yay3hco.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu via's message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:48:07 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=75.151.244.229; envelope-from=mwd@md5i.com; helo=md5i.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258126 Archived-At: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Type: > > C-h v nil RET > > Emacs will describe `nil' as obsolete since 29.1. > That is absurd. Happens for me too, but not with -Q. So some common package is causing this, likely by accident. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (md5i@md5i.com)