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Mon, 24 Apr 2023 06:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rltb ([82.66.8.55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y4-20020adffa44000000b002f013fb708fsm10895374wrr.4.2023.04.24.06.02.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 24 Apr 2023 06:02:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?="'s message of "Mon, 24 Apr 2023 12:43:21 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260570 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 12:43:21 +0100, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora said: Jo=C3=A3o> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 10:38=E2=80=AFAM Robert Pluim wrote: >>=20 >> >>>>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 09:57:43 +0100, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora said: >> >> I use eglot on emacs-29, but have never installed it (and I never= run >> >> emacs-28 any more :-)) >> >> >>=20 Jo=C3=A3o> Also noted. Eglot on Emacs 29 is generally the most stable v= ersion of it Jo=C3=A3o> you can get. However is has less features. Expect the gap to= grow with Jo=C3=A3o> time. Some fringe LSP servers are also better supported on l= ater versions. >>=20 >> There are too many things going on to attempt to keep up to date with >> them all :-) Jo=C3=A3o> Perfectly reasonable. It would be rather unwise to force a = newer Jo=C3=A3o> version of Eglot on you. Do let me know if you find any bug= s in Jo=C3=A3o> the Emacs 29 eglot.el, which is version 1.12.29. The pretest= is here Jo=C3=A3o> for that. I will, although I use clangd which I suspect is pretty heavily tested anyway. >> Explicitly in my init file, no. The only package installation and >> upgrading I do is via `list-packages', for the usual suspects like >> magit and helm. And even that I do reluctantly, since something alwa= ys >> seems to break. Jo=C3=A3o> That's likely something to bring up with the maintainers of Jo=C3=A3o> said packages (which aren't GNU ELPA btw). I don't even use Jo=C3=A3o> them (I use stock VC and stock M-x fido-vertical-mode). I don=CA=BCt think magit or helm are to blame here. Jo=C3=A3o> But do you have any suspicion if that is related to upgrade = of Jo=C3=A3o> dependencies, or -- more to the point of this bug report -- Jo=C3=A3o> to upgrade of :core dependencies? `list-packages' seems to get confused about which dependent packages need to be uninstalled, and sometimes uninstalls too many (or maybe it fails to upgrade them, I=CA=BCm not sure). I then get errors about 'package bar requires package foo version 1.12, only found 1.11' or similar. Every time it happens I manually install the packages that should not have been uninstalled, and get on with other things, since I don=CA=BCt normally have time to spend on creating a minimal test case. Now you understand why I only upgrade my packages every couple of months. Robert --=20