From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:49:26 +0000 Message-ID: <87bkaf1iux.fsf@localhost> References: <83a5r5gdxk.fsf@gnu.org> <87frztc7iy.fsf@localhost> <867cl4kg4l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87cyuwdcb4.fsf@localhost> <868r5jse0m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r0jbbg2z.fsf@gnu.org> <87mstz1l0b.fsf@localhost> <83bkafbdto.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13877"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: materus213@gmail.com, 67393@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 20:47:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rHURK-0003O0-Vw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:47:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHUR7-0000yr-Ku; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:46:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHUR6-0000yN-9g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rHUR6-0000bK-1t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHURC-0003rb-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67393 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 67393-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67393.170344719014803 (code B ref 67393); Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2023 19:46:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53582 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHUQf-0003qh-Er for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:46:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:55233) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rHUQc-0003ix-1x for 67393@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:46:27 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16177240103 for <67393@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:46:14 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1703447174; bh=ZplzrtyPd76tYG8qQF4KqtF1u45xcFIGEKR8UbEWtGE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=ddhyLdgmRHP/e863o2RwduFAlBFbVcQkzm34gpguuJ2s+CgsgvC/+nz5ONosFRCgT K8PKucX0mKwG1iIcMDoYGZXauvyiWS9xO1q2Ei6kElcri9cBsyrcagoYhUVLjSXCWD kQyyQW1OKnef83CmJU7QklRie6GJqgOcS1LHchpo36eZO4EjcTtlX6ZAFOWJYOo3HP elbRfcwCxOGmOJeZdgkZ2bnLYguoYbaL3yCvJD3TVZ9m3hnQJPEQqkkGgmlCdXYyHt Kx0qlvcFZOSdqnmJq8hYo6E8MUn/MHLJ5uBNNvUq1NMl7l3z7H6lwwBUTNI5zxYiQ/ cKwpnernhT/cQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Sys3T4Bscz6txc; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 20:46:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83bkafbdto.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:276827 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> AFAIU, the only difference is that `sit-for' will block Emacs, while the >> proposed multiline echo will not. Is absence of blocking what you are >> concerned about? > > No, I'm concerned with the span of user's attention when presented > with multiple unrelated messages in several lines. Then, the "important" messages should be written in such a way that they can be understood later, away from the immediate context of the message trigger. >> As an alternative idea, important messages may have an option to be >> accumulated forever, until explicitly dismissed. Just like >> (notifications-notify :title "Very important message" :timeout 0) > > How is this better than waiting for a second? 1. Waiting for a second creates a temptation to press C-g without thinking and get the original message replaced with "Quit". 2. The message can be read later (not just within one second). For example after a distraction in RL and being away from Emacs or a short moment. >> do you have something specific in mind about collecting the >> experience? > > Use them for some unimportant messages until we have enough experience > and can make intelligent decisions. Any specific messages in mind? If not, we may ask the users of set-multi-message. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at