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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: materus213@gmail.com, 67393@debbugs.gnu.org,
	stefankangas@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:49:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkaf1iux.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bkafbdto.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> AFAIU, the only difference is that `sit-for' will block Emacs, while the
>> proposed multiline echo will not. Is absence of blocking what you are
>> concerned about?
>
> No, I'm concerned with the span of user's attention when presented
> with multiple unrelated messages in several lines.

Then, the "important" messages should be written in such a way that they
can be understood later, away from the immediate context of the message
trigger.

>> As an alternative idea, important messages may have an option to be
>> accumulated forever, until explicitly dismissed. Just like
>> (notifications-notify :title "Very important message" :timeout 0)
>
> How is this better than waiting for a second?

1. Waiting for a second creates a temptation to press C-g without
   thinking and get the original message replaced with "Quit".

2. The message can be read later (not just within one second). For
   example after a distraction in RL and being away from Emacs or a
   short moment.

>> do you have something specific in mind about collecting the
>> experience?
>
> Use them for some unimportant messages until we have enough experience
> and can make intelligent decisions.

Any specific messages in mind?
If not, we may ask the users of set-multi-message.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-24 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-23  0:28 bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists materus213
2023-11-23  6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 14:56   ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-23 14:34     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 17:23       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-23 18:05         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:34           ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-24 18:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:03               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 19:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:49                   ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-12-24 20:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 16:50                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 16:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 17:18                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 17:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:40                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:08                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:17                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-27 12:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 13:59                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-27 17:20               ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-27 17:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28  7:57                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 16:36                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 17:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-16 17:43                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 18:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-17 16:48                             ` Juri Linkov

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