From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: can't get native charset codes from mule menu Date: 02 Oct 2002 23:34:40 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87adlwvoq7.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> References: <87k7ldtt8f.fsf@jidanni.org> <200209250853.RAA11100@etlken.m17n.org> <878z1pvjh1.fsf@jidanni.org> <200210021259.VAA09006@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033707875 18414 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 05:04:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 05:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xKdc-0004ms-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 07:04:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xKe0-0000c2-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 01:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wm6v-0008Iw-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 12:12:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wm6t-0008Ii-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 12:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from msr84.hinet.net ([168.95.4.184] helo=msr.hinet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17wm6s-0008Id-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 12:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from debian (61-227-47-85.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.227.47.85]) by msr.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03539; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:12:04 +0800 (CST) Original-Received: from jidanni by debian with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17wlWK-0000Y6-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:34:40 +0800 Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <200210021259.VAA09006@etlken.m17n.org> Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:3631 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:3631 >>>>> "K" == Kenichi Handa writes: K> In article <878z1pvjh1.fsf@jidanni.org>, Dan Jacobson writes: K> If you want to see the real code-points of Big5, please do: K> M-x list-charset-chars RET big5 RET. >> Hmmm, one would also expect this to be available in the Mule >> menu... seems even more often used by users than the thing that gave >> me 217x... K> Currently we have this menu: K> menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-character-sets K> Do you mean you also want something like this? K> menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars -> ascii -> latin-iso8859-1 K> ... -> Big5 K> ... No. I felt bad because anything in menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars will just show you the emacs internal codes. Therefore I want an additional tree: menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars-with-their-native-codes or something like that, because: 1. don't most folks want to see a list with the native codes and not emacs special codes? But the menu just has the latter and not the former. 2. Isn't it weird that M-x list-charset-chars will show you native codes whereas the menu item of the same name shows you emacs codes? Oh, the menu item is in fact "List Character Sets", but sounds close enough, and there is no alternative on the menu to get you native codes. By the way, I suppose your subtrees idea isn't bad, but remember to take care of the bigger problem first. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780