From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Siart Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2497: 23.0.91; Fails to read UTF-8 on Win2k Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:16:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87ab86ah9z.fsf@tum.de> References: <877i3c55tg.fsf@tum.de> <87ljrromgg.fsf@tum.de> Reply-To: uwe.siart@tum.de, 2497@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235825154 8336 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2009 12:45:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2497@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 28 13:47:09 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LdOaw-0000WT-Kx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:47:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59224 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LdOZb-0005A7-QX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:45:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LdOXi-0004jM-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LdOXe-0004ib-PK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34689 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LdOXd-0004iT-S5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:43:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:46493) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LdOXd-0004jx-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:43:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1SChc0X016460; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:43:38 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n1SCP3jF011451; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:25:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Uwe Siart Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:25:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2497 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2497-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2497.12358234069963 (code B ref 2497); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2497) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Feb 2009 12:16:46 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.106]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1SCGf5S009950 for <2497@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:16:43 -0800 Original-Received: from PEGASUS ([129.187.51.177] [129.187.51.177]) by mailout.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:16:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:49:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (windows-nt) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:43:43 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:25842 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> So this still looks like a real bug. > > Perhaps it is, but I didn't know Emacs 23 can reliably distinguish > between Latin-1 and UTF-8, even when UTF-8 sequences are present in > the text. Can we do that reliably? Perhaps Handa-san can shed some > light on this. Finding a solution to do it reliably would of course be the best. Assumed this is not possible right now we should distinguish between =BBhigh reliability=AB and =BBpoor reliability=AB. From my perception it has been much more reliable earlier so (as a user with limited viewpoint) I vote for reverting the change. --=20 Uwe