From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5054: 23.1.50; buffer-menu truncated fields Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:50:34 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87aawnrwut.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <4B3F58A5.6080701@gmx.at> <87ljgggfff.fsf@jidanni.org> <4B41BF95.2030106@gmx.at> <87ljge801v.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4B423CBA.6050001@gmx.at> <87iqbfyoy4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4B459896.1050208@gmx.at> <87eim1ebsm.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4B46EA66.8020905@gmx.at> Reply-To: Juri Linkov , 5054@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263061164 16120 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2010 18:19:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5054@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 19:19:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTfu1-0005J8-MZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:19:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35619 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTfu2-0000kM-8q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:19:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTftw-0000iO-Pf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:19:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTfts-0000dr-88 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:19:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45200 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTfts-0000dk-5d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:19:00 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35168) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTftr-0000ha-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:18:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTfXd-0001pB-MM; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:56:01 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: Juri Linkov , 5054@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5054 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5054-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5054.12630597587007 (code B ref 5054); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5054) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2010 17:55:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTfXa-0001oy-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-out4.starman.ee ([85.253.0.6] helo=mx2.starman.ee) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTfXX-0001ot-PJ for 5054@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:55:56 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.53.145.cable.starman.ee [82.131.53.145]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617B03F419D; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:55:45 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: <4B46EA66.8020905@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:18:46 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:56:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34114 Archived-At: > Does the weird behavior of `man' result from the fact that it doesn't > know what to display in the new window until formatting completes? Yes, and the only reasonable way to fix this weirdness is to do what other similar Emacs commands do (e.g. `compile' and `grep'): first display the output buffer, and later when the formatted output is ready, put it to this buffer. Just imagine how unfriendly it would be if `compile'/`grep' worked like `man' currently works by waiting while the shell command is finished, and then suddenly popping up the output buffer! -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/