From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Joachim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7962: 23.2; capitalize letters ISO-8859-1 with diacritic signs in emacs 23.2.1 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:35:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87aaicn3uu.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> References: <4D493388.2070801@ens2m.fr> <4D4AAEE7.9040509@ens2m.fr> <4D4AF8B2.6090108@ens2m.fr> <83oc6sbyum.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbckn4ph.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296777187 9530 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2011 23:53:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emmanuel Bigler , 7962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 04 00:53:02 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl8yy-0007Jl-Tc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:53:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pl8QD-00016L-0L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50077 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pl8FK-0006Ux-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:05:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl8FI-00048h-Dq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl8FI-00048W-9n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:05:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7ej-0004lf-Ic; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:28:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sven Joachim Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7962.129677202918216 (code B ref 7962); Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2011 22:27:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7dt-0004jl-26 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7dq-0004jA-Ok for 7962@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:27:08 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Feb 2011 22:35:35 -0000 Original-Received: from p54861DCA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.29.202] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 03 Feb 2011 23:35:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Y/aM3Qt4YVQcuSaO21jRQoguB++0YBe1pO+8cmu 5XDB94keJBtNBX Original-Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 739643F458; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:35:37 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:22:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2.93 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:28:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:43899 Archived-At: On 2011-02-03 23:22 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> For reliability, yes.  Otherwise Emacs cannot really know the encoding >> and has to guess if a byte with value 164 means ¤ (ISO-8859-1) or € >> (ISO-8859-15), for instance.  Converting the files to UTF-8 solves this >> ambiguity, of course. > > > Is it sure that Emacs in the future will always do the same guess > about encoding for files that have no explicit coding in them? This is not even the case today, depending on your locale environment Emacs will guess differently for ¤/€. > If not then perhaps it would be good to add a function to emacs that > helps users add comments about explicit coding to a bunch of files. IMO offering to convert them to UTF-8 would be more helpful. The legacy encodings ought to die some day. Cheers, Sven