From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10781: EIEIO namespace use Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87aa1wi206.fsf@engster.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335608949 23353 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2012 10:29:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10781@debbugs.gnu.org, "Eric M. Ludlam" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 28 12:29:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4tg-00061i-48 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:29:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54578 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4tf-0003Tf-Bg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:28:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4tb-0003TX-Mp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4ta-0005SK-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4tZ-0005SF-Sl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4ug-0000EQ-GJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Engster Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10781 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10781-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10781.1335608998859 (code B ref 10781); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10781) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2012 10:29:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56135 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4uc-0000Do-32 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:29:58 -0400 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([83.169.19.17]:49710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4uY-0000Df-ST for 10781@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:29:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=c9u7Ua2pRN521ox889XRw3HdGCeCCTAvcbkYPCmkmRg=; b=X7Ok7klsfA7PBDLRJreYygcCDKOoWLj6RbaYEi36gCL4Nyi02zLIhJ7DjmCCThLTmaQNpnHlcq9RNVBSQvTCDyRQVWKHnl+YMonOKQUOSC2dSrB3KhpKUPQL+VO5fExo; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-047-133.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.47.133] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SO4tO-0004iO-AC; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:28:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:39:23 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59586 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > EIEIO needs to be cleaned up so it doesn't intrude all over > the namespace. > The worst offenders include: > - `this'. > - `slot-*'. > - `constructor', `destructor'. > - `delete-instance'. > - `initialize-instance'. > - `clone'. > - `data-debug*'. > - `make-instance'. > - `oref'. > - `oset'. > - `with-slots'. > - `object-*'. > - `class-*'. > - `next-method-p'. > - `call-next-method'. > - error symbols (like no-next-method). > - ... probably `defmethod', `defclass', and `defgeneric'. I think this should be a goal for the next merge, but I'm at a loss regarding how this should be tackled without, you know, breaking practically every bit of code in CEDET and probably others. Do you have a suggestion? Maybe even creating EIEIOv2 and slowly porting CEDET to that? -David