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[184.155.87.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lh7sm20256012oeb.6.2014.02.06.21.29.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:29:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140207051740.GA6628@ucolick.org> (Steve Allen's message of "Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:17:40 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:84790 Archived-At: > So this math is not only limited to being valid on earth, but also > limited to US and Canada subsequent to the 1987 change of the Uniform > Time Act? The math is good anywhere. You may not like the interpretation of the results, though. >> Could you be more precise? From what I've read, UT isn't precisely >> defined and UTC is one possible interpretation of it. > > For dates prior to atomic chronometers UT is defined more precisely > than the sources of time that were available to most users of civil > time. Which doesn't tell me what UT is. > Piles of details about all these time scales are here > http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/timescales.html For those that want piles of details; I suppose. I was wondering which version of UT you were referring to. At any rate, nothing will be done until after the next release of Emacs. Then I'll check to see how other programs handle DST. Since the original bug report didn't report a bug, I'll close this report. Jay