From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19302: 24.4.51; `date-to-time' fails after 2038 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:07:14 +0000 Message-ID: <87a92wk5gd.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87vblmc377.fsf@gmail.com> <83ppbswzfq.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9x4k7qg.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <8361dkwufl.fsf@gnu.org> <834mt4wtec.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418152114 6239 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 19:08:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 19:08:34 +0000 (UTC) To: 19302@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 20:08:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyQ8v-0004Ty-7T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:07:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyQ7u-0007Xj-JP for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:07:14 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: 19302@debbugs.gnu.org In-Reply-To: <834mt4wtec.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:49:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97101 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:31:20 +0100 >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> So such an Emacs will be broken anyway after 2038, because it will >>> be unable to interpret file attributes, I see no way a platform which uses 32-bit time_t could possibly return file attributes pointing beyond 2038. >>> use interval timers, etc. Yes. However, I=E2=80=99m could hardly imagine a use case for interval timers pointing to some quarter a century in the future. >> The problem is in parsing dates in the far future. Web pages, for >> instance, popularly use an Expiry: header saying that the page >> expires in the year 2100 as a synonym for "never expires". > So we are going now to reinvent all the strftime stuff, complete with > localized names of months, days, etc., is that so? If =E2=80=9Cwe=E2=80=9D here means =E2=80=9Cthe GNU project,=E2=80=9D =E2= =80=93 then we already do that; check lib/strftime.c, for instance. Naturally, when (and if) implemented, such utilities could very well be used outside of Emacs. i386 $ LC_ALL=3DC date --date=3D2040-01-01=20 date: invalid date `2040-01-01' amd64 $ LC_ALL=3DC date --date=3D2040-01-01=20 Sun Jan 1 00:00:00 UTC 2040 [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A