From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20189: 25.0.50; Feature request: Alternative split-window-sensibly functions Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87a8z027or.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <87iodqbvoz.fsf@gnu.org> <83384uqqao.fsf@gnu.org> <871tkd36jx.fsf@gnu.org> <83egodouoo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427312064 7180 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 19:34:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20189@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 25 20:34:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar46-0000jD-FN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:34:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar45-0007pf-Rl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar42-0007pP-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar3z-0003Iw-6Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar3z-0003In-32 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar3y-0007Yg-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20189 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20189-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20189.142731203129036 (code B ref 20189); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20189) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2015 19:33:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar3m-0007YE-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:33:50 -0400 Original-Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:59000) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yar3h-0007Y4-Pt for 20189@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:33:47 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C70720843 for <20189@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:33:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= smtpout; bh=QRdx33sDsb0N/+4vro5L9qT1nn8=; b=fZOQqJ8NH9ZY+bxw9U3b itcsTyKz35536J9L0vJG2Rz3mbh/i+/AzFT5/RSzPqe7bSLRIWmeyyFPRAIAX0TP g8JCJIwLx81ss3Zz3Z8/sKeAYTbwhdUew9ymcyEQrqmldv91kdj/navM1CZHNbzR /Rardj4cgTrkS7qaixdHTlA= X-Sasl-enc: SKpBBiIh7POu3RtatRX80faes49TvKcvMb+ezk+kQtkF 1427312023 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (unknown [2.162.103.220]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4DE23680169; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:33:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83egodouoo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:25:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:100930 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: Hi Eli, > I don't see how we can judge "sensibility" of what display-buffer does > without knowing which command(s) invoked it. Users don't invoke > display-buffer directly, and the commands that do differ widely in the > amount and dimensions of text they display and subsequent use of the > displayed stuff. > > As a simple example, a command that calls display-buffer could prepare > text that is best shown in a 100x10 window (think about some columnar > display), in which case it doesn't make sense to prefer 80-column wide > side-by-side windows that you seem to prefer. Long story short: I agree with all that you've said. And if there's some optimal algorithm for splitting windows in such a way that the least screen estate is wasted and at the same time the most buffer contents are visible, that would be awesome. No need to convince me that there's something much better than what I've suggested. But for the time being, I prefer some solution which is available right now and good enough for my personal preferences. And that's the point of the issue. Window handling is extremely hard to configure in Emacs with the amounts of options we have. That's why I've suggested to have a small set of alternatives one can choose from without having to dig into the details of window thresholds, window parameters, window combinations, etc. Bye, Tassilo