From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20404: 25.0.50; Sometimes no fontification with jit-lock-defer-time Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:45:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8y0iji1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429696047 3939 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2015 09:47:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:47:27 +0000 (UTC) To: 20404@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 11:47:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFT-0002MS-4m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:47:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFS-0002Cd-15 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFL-0002CW-Pd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:47:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFG-0002H9-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFG-0002H5-FE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrFG-0001S2-1e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20404 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14296959665506 (code B ref -1); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 09:46:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrEK-0001Qi-33 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:46:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrEG-0001Q8-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrE8-00021C-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrE8-000218-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:45:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrE5-00023g-2y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:45:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrE0-0001zo-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:45:49 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:55319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkrDz-0001zi-KD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 05:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (dhcp229.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 059961A84F2 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:45:43 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101861 Archived-At: I use the settings (setq jit-lock-defer-time 0.0312 jit-lock-stealth-nice 0.117 jit-lock-stealth-time 0.23) to speed up scrolling in large buffers with complex font-lock rules. That basically works nice. However, quite often I'm faced with buffers that are not fontified before I do something, e.g., move point. This frequently happens when installing/upgrading packages with the package manager. That shows the buffer containing the byte-compliation messages with fontified warnings and errors. Every second time or so, I'm faced with a completely unfontified buffer that gets fontified only after selecting the window showing the buffer. Another and even reproducible case is `report-emacs-bug'. It goes like this: 1. emacs -Q 2. eval my above settings in *scratch* 3. M-x report-emacs-bug The new message buffer is completely unfontified initially. As soon as you move point, font-lock kicks in and the header lines get their proper fontification. Or maybe it's the other way round, i.e., the buffer is created, then redisplayed, then the fontification takes place but no redisplay is performed thereafter. Of course, what I had expected in both cases is that I get fontified buffers almost immediately, e.g., after 0.0312 seconds. (In the byte-compile case I could imagine that it takes a bit longer if there is so much output that redisplay isn't called for some longer period.) Fun anecdote: I really have a pretty fast machine but still scrolling, e.g., buffer.c, by pressing and holding `C-v' causes visible scrolling for 1-2 seconds, and then the display freezes. Emacs burns one core, and the next visible change I can observe is that the end of the buffer is displayed after the ~6 seconds where emacs seems frozen. That lead me to looking for solutions, and deferred JIT lock and stealth lock seemed like a good idea (and they are!). But I've been in contact with some other emacs user who didn't face these display freezes on several machines with lower specs than mine. Then we tried figuring out where's the difference. I've tested several different machines, emacs versions, toolkits, emacs -nw, optimized builds and (almost) always got the display freezes. He did the same and didn't encounter the freezes. What would you guess as likely culprit? Solution to the riddle: V'ir pbasvtherq zl K jvaqbj flfgrz jvgu n irel uvtu xrlobneq ercrng engr bs 58 Um. 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