From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20728: 25.0.50; grep and grep-find templates should have a place holder for the --color argument Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:20:28 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87a8w53k8z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <86bngws6il.fsf@yandex.ru> <83zj4fpjof.fsf@gnu.org> <557082F7.8020400@yandex.ru> <83wpzjpf6o.fsf@gnu.org> <55708EEA.6020400@yandex.ru> <83twunp9bf.fsf@gnu.org> <5570B30F.4090503@yandex.ru> <83oakuprpf.fsf@gnu.org> <55715DE3.6000405@yandex.ru> <83h9qmpm2s.fsf@gnu.org> <557166CE.4050906@yandex.ru> <83d21apkyg.fsf@gnu.org> <55717030.6010005@yandex.ru> <87a8wdhka7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5572C936.6070505@yandex.ru> <874mmkfq7q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5574C427.3070007@yandex.ru> <87fv608nl8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <55787A1D.9080601@yandex.ru> <87wpzbaztk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <55793756.9070505@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434064943 11354 80.91.229.3 (11 Jun 2015 23:22:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20728@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 12 01:22:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnX-0006Xt-SR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:22:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnX-0002Pd-Bw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:22:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnT-0002PJ-Rr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnO-0005aE-OV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:22:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnO-0005a8-Kp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BnO-0002NS-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20728 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20728-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20728.14340648779071 (code B ref 20728); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20728) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 23:21:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Bmd-0002ME-Vc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:42115 helo=homiemail-a11.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Bmc-0002M7-Mf for 20728@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EFA6E07E; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m83-187-196-182.cust.tele2.ee [83.187.196.182]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D36C6E07C; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55793756.9070505@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:23:02 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:103846 Archived-At: >> With the mnemonics = :) > > Rename it, then? But I'd be fine with keeping the "wrong" letter for > compatibility with templates set by third-party code, if there's any. Yes, it's out of the question that we should keep the original letters. >> OTOH, null-device has a separate placeholder . > > And it seems to never be used anywhere. Again, grep-compute-defaults > inlines the appropriate value in the templates. Here again the same question: how different is null-device from grep-highlight-matches that null-device should be inlined in the templates by grep-compute-defaults while grep-highlight-matches shouldn't? > Maybe we should remove the mentions of it from the docstrings. I wonder how many third-party code uses the templates with that it needs to be documented.