From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23131: switch-to-buffer-other-frame problem Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:49:32 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87a8ld6reb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <56F91406.2080304@gmx.at> <56FA9B97.5020807@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459540405 17241 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2016 19:53:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 19:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan , 23131@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 01 21:53:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1am586-00042G-Ig for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:53:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1am585-0005SH-VE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58798) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1am57z-0005Ns-Mj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1am57u-0006pg-N6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1am57u-0006pb-HB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1am57u-0002MU-6c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23131 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23131-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23131.14595403499024 (code B ref 23131); Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23131) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2016 19:52:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1am57M-0002LT-LX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:52:28 -0400 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:44717 helo=homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1am57L-0002LL-7W for 23131@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:52:27 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1294E4B006F; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 12:52:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jurta.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=jurta.org; bh=m92Dqjy Wob21i7GLzx1p1pS7oo4=; b=hHAVGiVh6Q1PcF9+kcsgLhI7Rc7W5u5OqdimkoS m9ZcHC2o86AxOzhuYdMTTrNdlxOBeT2G/Utyit41ZSdUQu+n1Mue4EJULnw4bPl6 p5CyGO78rT6SXadf5Ak+h9nbThxG9sSPjV15PuXxO5r8yDvosRcrL0Wpz6G3SXaQ o6Kk= Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (82.131.90.203.cable.starman.ee [82.131.90.203]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BC3044B006D; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 12:52:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FA9B97.5020807@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:13:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115850 Archived-At: >>> If, in this situation, you type C-x b, Emacs won't offer you sample.t= xt >>> as completion either. Ditto for =E2=80=98switch-to-buffer-other-wind= ow=E2=80=99. >> >> I'd say that replication of (arguably questionable) behaviour doesn't >> justify it. > > We'll have to wait until the respective author(s) explain the reasons > for the change. > >>> It's >>> difficult to say what the correct behavior should be. I never use th= e >>> buffer switching commands, so I have no preference. But I suppose th= at >>> some people would complain if C-x b offered them the buffer already >>> shown in the selected window as possible completion. >> >> Well, Eli Zaretski said of this (I'd emailed him first) "Yes, it's a >> feature: Emacs doesn't offer you a buffer that is already displayed in >> an existing window. This was introduced in Emacs 24." > > IIUC it was introduced in Emacs 23. > >> So it is new behaviour. > > Relatively so, since I can reproduce it with a seven years old build. > If I'm not mistaken the change is by Juri Linkov from 2008-04-22. > >> Therefore: 1) was it introduced deliberately? If so, why? (if the code >> was the code made more complex by introducing a special case rather >> than simplifiying it, doubly why?) >> >> And: 2) this behaviour is not documented. My understanding is that >> documentation omissions are considered bugs. > > Juri, what do you think? This change was discussed here where you can see all arguments pro and co= ntra: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/93054/focus=3D95497