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Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:55:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d143sm10550910iod.18.2017.02.07.17.55.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:55:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0c0b574f-880d-4b99-9e14-6c4b29cab1f4@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:18:05 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129110 Archived-At: tags 25627 notabug close 25627 quit Drew Adams writes: > >> > But again, this bug report is about unnecessarily >> > autoloading `cl-extra.el'. It is not about `cl.el'. >> >> Does the fact that cl-extra sets byte-compile-dynamic help >> with your concerns at all? ... >> byte-compile-dynamic is a variable defined in `bytecomp.el'. > > Yes, I think it does. I wasn't aware of this feature. > > From (elisp) `Dynamic Loading' it appears that there is > no bug here. If you think so too then please close. > > Why don't more (even most) of the files distributed with > Emacs have this variable set (to non-nil)? Loading functions one by one can be slower than loading them all at once. Some justification would be needed for adding this (e.g., if a file contains many independent functions that would usually be used in isolation).