* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
@ 2017-10-15 7:39 Andreas Schwab
2017-12-09 19:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2017-10-15 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 28842
There is no replacement for gnus-sync. That makes it impossible to sync
gnus data between emacs versions.
Andreas.
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-10-15 7:39 bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing Andreas Schwab
@ 2017-12-09 19:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-10 11:37 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2017-12-09 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 28842
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 09:39:03 +0200 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
AS> There is no replacement for gnus-sync. That makes it impossible to sync
AS> gnus data between emacs versions.
Considering the number of known users of gnus-sync was in the single
digits, I think that's OK. If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and
see if you can propose a way to support it with gnus-cloud. I don't see
a simple way.
Thanks
Ted
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-09 19:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2017-12-10 11:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-10 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2017-12-10 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 28842
On Dez 09 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> Considering the number of known users of gnus-sync was in the single
> digits, I think that's OK. If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and
> see if you can propose a way to support it with gnus-cloud.
gnus-cloud does not work. gnus-sync does.
Andreas.
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-10 11:37 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2017-12-10 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-10 13:41 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2017-12-10 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 28842
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:37:43 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
AS> On Dez 09 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>> Considering the number of known users of gnus-sync was in the single
>> digits, I think that's OK. If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and
>> see if you can propose a way to support it with gnus-cloud.
AS> gnus-cloud does not work. gnus-sync does.
That's not the direction I want to take, though.
If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and see if you can propose a
way to support it with gnus-cloud.
Ted
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-10 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2017-12-10 13:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-11 14:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2017-12-10 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 28842
On Dez 10 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and see if you can propose a
> way to support it with gnus-cloud.
I don't understand. gnus-sync works ootb.
Andreas.
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Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
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"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-10 13:41 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2017-12-11 14:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-11 15:40 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2017-12-11 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 28842-done
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:41:21 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
AS> On Dez 10 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>> If you disagree, take a look at gnus-sync and see if you can propose a
>> way to support it with gnus-cloud.
AS> I don't understand. gnus-sync works ootb.
I've made the decision to stop supporting gnus-sync in favor of
gnus-cloud. The decision is based on number of users, data store
consistency, and the implementation details.
I'm closing this ticket because it's not a bug that gnus-sync is
missing, and I don't think enough Gnus user eyeballs will catch it here
if we discuss it as a feature. If you want to bring gnus-sync back,
please post in the Gnus mailing list and we can discuss the specifics.
Thanks
Ted
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-11 14:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2017-12-11 15:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-11 15:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-11 22:37 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2017-12-11 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 28842; +Cc: tzz
On Dez 11 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> I've made the decision to stop supporting gnus-sync in favor of
> gnus-cloud. The decision is based on number of users, data store
> consistency, and the implementation details.
None of that is relevant if gnus-cloud does not work.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-11 15:40 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2017-12-11 15:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-11 15:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-11 22:37 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2017-12-11 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 28842
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:40:39 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
AS> On Dez 11 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>> I've made the decision to stop supporting gnus-sync in favor of
>> gnus-cloud. The decision is based on number of users, data store
>> consistency, and the implementation details.
AS> None of that is relevant if gnus-cloud does not work.
Your argument is entirely negative.
Ted
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-11 15:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2017-12-11 15:51 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2017-12-11 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 28842
On Dez 11 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:40:39 +0100 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>
> AS> On Dez 11 2017, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>>> I've made the decision to stop supporting gnus-sync in favor of
>>> gnus-cloud. The decision is based on number of users, data store
>>> consistency, and the implementation details.
>
> AS> None of that is relevant if gnus-cloud does not work.
>
> Your argument is entirely negative.
It's true.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
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* bug#28842: gnus-sync is missing
2017-12-11 15:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-11 15:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2017-12-11 22:37 ` Richard Stallman
2017-12-12 17:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2017-12-11 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: tzz, 28842
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The name "gnus-cloud" has a problem -- it uses the word "cloud"
which is a buzzword that spreads confusion. Using that term is harmful.
(See https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#CloudComputing.)
What does this facility do? Surely we can find a coherent and
non-confusing name for it.
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