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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.5); Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:16:16 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Hysterical-Plucky: 4d3833902e6c9c36_1564424175983_1927471557 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1564424175982:3342548233 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1564424175982 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E398883083; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=b8YLEQosrTtabUiNtLjgCkz6arM=; b= FKa5o6k3kMV7D4n3/GZyRyaCWxFMvdHlpA1qplxoFeEfEvI7ORH3IrxC8+EfFeip QjbAM8oWIUbYxsG/59j/q92OLtfh6fqHeFIW/9Y8hhZZhldHXLhVJ3oVnN259zLg Z1Jf2ifSKTw2S4ICZ1XDe+n/th+Aanhsr6SgELiNAsY= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-103-76.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a43.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 386F28307F; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a43 In-Reply-To: <717c1376-ac78-4ff8-84a2-5c9a64ba16f3@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 28 Jul 2019 21:35:32 -0700 (PDT)") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrledugdduvdefucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhofhffjgfkfgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqeenucfkphepledurdduvdelrddutdefrdejieenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepmhgrihhlrdhjuhhrthgrrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepledurdduvdelrddutdefrdejiedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtpdhnrhgtphhtthhopegurhgvfidrrggurghmshesohhrrggtlhgvrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgepud X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164061 Archived-At: > I mentioned `set-variable'. But it is only for user options. I use such advice to workaround this restriction: ;; Allow set-variable to set all variables, not only customizable ones: (advice-add 'set-variable :around (lambda (orig-fun &rest args) (interactive (lambda (spec) (cl-letf (((symbol-function 'custom-variable-p) (lambda (v) (and (symbolp v) (boundp v))))) (advice-eval-interactive-spec spec)))) (cl-flet ((custom-variable-p (v) t)) (apply orig-fun args))) '((name . override-custom-variable))) But I agree with Michael this should be allowed only to developers.