bug#21015: 25.0.50; Shell is now displayed in another window, what about EShell?

bug#21015: 25.0.50; Shell is now displayed in another window, what about EShell?

[Mark Karpov]

From Emacs 25 NEWS:

> ** Shell
> 
> When you invoke `shell' interactively, the *shell* buffer will now
> display in a new window. <…>

I would say rather in other window (new is created if needed). Good. I
like this behavior because I still can see buffer that was active before
invocation of shell, but I usually use Emacs shell, not simple
shell. Can we have the same defaults for Emacs shell too? For the sake
of consistency, at least…




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bug#21015: 25.0.50; Shell is now displayed in another window, what about EShell?

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Mark Karpov <markkarpov@openmailbox.org> writes:

>> When you invoke `shell' interactively, the *shell* buffer will now
>> display in a new window. <…>
>
> I would say rather in other window (new is created if needed). Good. I
> like this behavior because I still can see buffer that was active before
> invocation of shell, but I usually use Emacs shell, not simple
> shell. Can we have the same defaults for Emacs shell too? For the sake
> of consistency, at least…

I think it would make sense to make `M-x eshell' consistent with `M-x
shell' on this point.  Does anybody have any objections?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#21015: 25.0.50; Shell is now displayed in another window, what about EShell?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 22:33:36 +0200
> Cc: 21015@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I think it would make sense to make `M-x eshell' consistent with `M-x
> shell' on this point.  Does anybody have any objections?

That's backward-incompatible, so I can only agree to it as an optional
behavior, not as the default.

(Eshell is conceptually a very different beast from a system shell.)

bug#21015: 25.0.50; Shell is now displayed in another window, what about EShell?

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> I think it would make sense to make `M-x eshell' consistent with `M-x
>> shell' on this point.  Does anybody have any objections?
>
> That's backward-incompatible, so I can only agree to it as an optional
> behavior, not as the default.
>
> (Eshell is conceptually a very different beast from a system shell.)

OK; then I don't think it's worth doing (it's more work for users to set
that option than to just create a new window manually, really), and I'm
closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no