From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:32:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87a77zpbab.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrrigj8.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexiqps5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrphp94.fsf@gnu.org> <87wob7g2jk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k177ebs0.fsf@gnu.org> <87muc27prn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv6acgq5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r21eosfk.fsf@gnus.org> <83d0cxd2fv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="70369"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, Richard Stallman , juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 11 08:33:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUi-000IBE-HX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:33:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUh-0004ZA-2a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:33:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUZ-0004Yl-VO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:33:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUY-0000Yf-QB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:33:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUY-0000Xw-M1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:33:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUY-0001Os-Hp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:33:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.15760495765371 (code B ref 38457); Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2019 07:32:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUS-0001OY-8Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:32:56 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52170) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUR-0001OM-DH for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:32:55 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iewUH-0007SV-Vf; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:32:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83d0cxd2fv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:00:04 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173172 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > We already have 2 bug reports about it for 2 separate > packages, and we cannot leave them unsolved. I'm sure this is just > the tip of a very large iceberg. Both were for the same thing, though, and was fixed by Juri's patch. > How do you propose we move forward? You think we should install the > timer proposed by Juri instead? I think that looked like the right solution. > We are developing Emacs 27 for more than 1.5 years. We need to start > its release cycle very soon, and we should start from a stable code > base. I agree that the timing for this change was unfortunate, especially for such a low-level change. It does make sense to me to back out the change for now and then apply it to master again once the emacs-27 branch has been cut. (Or perhaps doing it the other way around is easier -- cut the emacs-27 branch and then revert the change there.) I think you're right in that there may be other interactions that we still don't have a full overview of. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no