From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50880: Add "Contributing to Emacs" help command (see C-h C-h) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87a6jtw6ki.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8735pndfna.fsf@gnus.org> <878rzf9xtk.fsf@gnus.org> <25d8d72022560012a303@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26314"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50880@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 09:32:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWD2G-0006ck-Me for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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I'm not dead set against it -- it's not like these are commands that people use heavily. But that cuts the other way, too -- making this new command mnemonic isn't really that important, either, since I'd assume that people would be accessing them via `C-h C-h' and then paging down, entering whatever key it says they should use. I.e., nobody's remembering these keystrokes anyway. Perhaps Eli has an opinion here? >> Also, I would put "Contributing to Emacs" in the first subsection of >> "Miscellaneous", after "Debugging Emacs", where it belongs. Which by the >> way makes me wonder why Emacs TODO is not there, too. It would perhaps be >> even better to create a third subsection with >> >> C-p Known problems >> C-d Debugging Emacs >> ? Contributing to Emacs >> C-t Emacs TODO > > Good idea, I like it. Me too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no