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Mon, 29 Nov 2021 06:49:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87o863xbs9.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:43:34 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:221015 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:43:34 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: Lars> Robert Pluim writes: >> Except C-x 8 is nominally based on ISO 10646, so there=CA=BCs some k= ind of >> underlying logic to the characters it supports. Lars> In what way it it based on Unicode? Sorry, ISO 8859-1, not 10646 Lars> Adding `C-x 8 ' s` for instance, wouldn't get in the way of anyth= ing Lars> else, but would be helpful for those that have to write the Lars> occasional... er... what is it? An s with a caron?=20=20 >>=20 >> s with acute. But there are input methods where 's =3D> s with cedil= la >> (eg Romanian), so what's the logic for preferring Polish, especially >> when we already have Polish/Czech/Romanian/latin-n methods etc for a= ll >> these characters? Lars> I wasn't aware that there was any kind of logic to the `C-x 8' map Lars> except "well, that's nice". =F0=9F=98=80 :-) Looking again at iso-transl.el, perhaps we could define a 'Polish' and 'Czech' language. But again this all duplicates existing infrastructure in input methods. Robert --=20