From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52994: 29.0.50; Help descriptions from menu bar items don't appear in the echo area Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:39:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87a6fyr9r5.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13351"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 52994@debbugs.gnu.org, Alan Third To: Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 14 09:41:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I9Q-0003JN-My for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:41:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43088 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I9M-0006RV-G6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:41:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I8v-0006RJ-7F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:41:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I8r-0006ot-UK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:41:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I8r-0001AM-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:41:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52994 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52994-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52994.16421496104396 (code B ref 52994); Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52994) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2022 08:40:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I82-00018q-Dj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I80-00018W-FF for 52994@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:40:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Lf2SSbe27cXAaq6638JlKr0QY0AlEzoOqCRC/vUGbmQ=; b=hzZ0Lng79Y8PAQBieiAp+gNUjc rVKKDNS742G6IyYzKNpi+0FmWcFGehfOKovK/84g2toHbacGq6uwxESIGQWs0B0sIkylnmwk3wVvl Wu2HyzGHn5q0MjgD/yGIwlQcb7XyfnfXJoAZE+eBUEe+bDZeoszonysTh0PHX77fV0Rg=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8I7r-0001mH-Ce; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 09:40:02 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Various's _I Wanna Be Kate: The Songs of Kate Bush_: "Nocturn (feat. Carol Keogh)" In-Reply-To: ("Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?="'s message of "Tue, 04 Jan 2022 01:10:40 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224174 Archived-At: Daniel Mart=C3=ADn writes: > Steps to reproduce the problem: > > emacs -Q > Click on File, place the mouse over "Visit New File", but don't click it. > > Expected results: > > "Specify a new file's name, to edit the file", which is the value for > the :help keyword of that menu item, appears in the echo area, or > perhaps in a tooltip. > > Actual results: > > Nothing appears in the echo area. I'm unable to reproduce this problem on Debian -- is this a Macos problem only? On Macos, the menu is separated from the Emacs frame, and I'm guessing it's impossible to do tooltips up there. But I guess it could show the tooltips in the echo area? I.e., kinda emulate having tooltip-mode off when doing the menus? I've added Alan to the CCs; perhaps he has some comments. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no