From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53316: 28.0.91; Missing Transient manual in Emacs Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:15:21 +0100 Message-ID: <87a6fj7c0m.fsf@bernoul.li> References: <87o845s4xv.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilu77e3i.fsf@bernoul.li> <680E378A-BF43-4F47-BD2A-525A57283F49@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26802"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53316@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 22:19:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTE9-0006nQ-IK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:19:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTE6-0006RW-Gx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTAY-0004Ol-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTAX-0003cC-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTAX-0000Ot-Ok for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:16:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jonas Bernoulli Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53316-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53316.16431453301498 (code B ref 53316); Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53316) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2022 21:15:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCTA2-0000O6-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:15:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([212.243.197.30]:52938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nCT9x-0000Nt-6k for 53316@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:15:28 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB845164A6; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:15:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bernoul.li; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received :received; s=sel2011a; t=1643145321; bh=kC2jiNDcLU/i6ITrCPMopJnc pXRfLMag2TnQ6+XymSk=; b=NH2DGyn+AO+gMaksJk2dEBQy2rDD/j9j1Kc5bZw5 zYEFGw7BjswIzGlKzI2X3OTTi2AqST/wvM288o3QI6O4aC1DPMIw3LwVLkVkM4BM voVsvUtjkXPAhLbPcYbSu2fchDgo+P0CKxZnSLK8y5E+FBm5GtcoIjK3WLu0PoKe H6A= X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id G2Va-42gABv1; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:15:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F233163CB; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:15:21 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <680E378A-BF43-4F47-BD2A-525A57283F49@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225224 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani writes: >> Am 25.01.2022 um 21:30 schrieb Jonas Bernoulli : >> >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> Philipp Stephani writes: >>> >>>> Transient has its own manual (transient.org/.texi), but that's missing >>>> from the version shipped with Emacs. Could we add the manual to the >>>> Emacs release? >>> >>> Sounds like a good idea to me; adding Jonas to the CCs. >> >> Agreed. I was planning to create a new release first and merge that >> into "emacs-28" before doing so, but it seems the ship has sailed. >> >> On the other hand it contains important bug fixes (but also new >> features) and nothing on "emacs-28" uses it yet. So maybe it would >> still be okay to update even during the pre-release phase; I don't know. >> Removing it from "emacs-28" and only releasing it in 29 (or maybe 28.2) >> might also be an option. > > Or maybe it would be feasible to add the manual version that > corresponds to the Emacs 28 version? Yes. Just saying that wasn't the plan. (And that won't make the bugs go away. And some of them were quite severe, but I believe that those that made it necessary to kill Emacs from the outside have at least been neutered, i.e. there's still an error but Emacs remains usable.)