From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24902: Antw: [EXT] Re: bug#24902: 25.1; C-x = for Unicode Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:47:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87a6fdcjiy.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87pmoh3xdk.fsf@gnus.org> <877dap3uea.fsf@gnus.org> <4CEFB383-E7C8-4AA8-9B43-6267E5523DC3@acm.org> <87lez2tzfz.fsf@gnus.org> <87lez2tzfz.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6fihaku.fsf@gmail.com> <469D64F5020000015C413831@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de> <0106AEA10200006A824A10E1@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de> <61F1561A020000A1000472CB@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de> <87v8y5mblo.fsf@gnus.org> <867dal9k8g.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83ee4sc4f0.fsf@gnu.org> <87o83ud30u.fsf@gnus.org> <83leyybnee.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4088"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rms@gnu.org, mattiase@acm.org, rpluim@gmail.com, Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de, juri@linkov.net, 24902@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 30 16:49:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nECRx-0000th-Du for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nECQp-0007kK-AC; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:48:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83leyybnee.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:57:13 +0200") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXn6NJYRzsTEBSc bFr///+Q5a+sAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YBHg8pAiB74tkAAAF1SURBVDjLbZPZgYUw CEXjpAGBBh6xgRD6722ArL4ZflROWALXlIYhFjcmTW8r2/g+/Lmwh3BHB7kK4A45In4KuAe/AwYY Vs/a3EE8AtRR+yhxglYganS8gNpnAOQT5PhwMNMFUC3R0AC42rXELAOs+kw1EcACdDArzDMVEu5r JgDAWcMAHUBPcM+YxAwwACsh6TVAwQ4sTJWF80xlZ/v8AEStRFvApsAxJmiKN862UszNuwcqFXUu d4BIpZZ/z35HUDYAcgCIYfPTnuvRdoLeL7FeH97ArwEmQxCidt8HsLIPSrEpq/jLugdyY78F4bOO B4Chm7uRFN0gSvR95pqub2Do48KQNwC/yKeGvt7Al0EuyL8AwDWT8R9QtUvyG2i2kPo3lVRJWetq lydQpeQ7n/66UtGTVYbabdSaQGQFIZr4ArEm0hmDY2Xh190ukExg/hdQGBrx9w2QbJGxAt82HRH+ I/S/zpLSu8bQqtsBHsGRx0/9ArM5c6JvYejJAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTAxLTMw VDE1OjQxOjAyKzAwOjAw7hAvXgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wMS0zMFQxNTo0MTow MiswMDowMJ9Nl+IAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Ida's _Ten Small Paces_: "Hilot" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225599 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > For example, when there's some problem with cursor position, and I > want to know where point _really_ is. Also, when there are many > similar characters in the buffer, and seeing both the character itself > and its position goes a long way towards disambiguating stuff. > > The "part of display ..." and the EOB indication are also occasionally > very useful. Thanks; I see. This sounds very useful especially when debugging the Emacs display, but perhaps isn't what most users would feel is vital? (But I don't know one way or the other.) What I see attractive about splitting this up into two commands is that there's more information about positions and characters that would be useful, I think. For instance, when I'm wondering about a character it's because it's odd to me somehow, so knowing the name and the general-category of the character (in addition to the Unicode char number) is what I'd like to know. And for positions, I'd really like to know the percentage point of the line. If we split this up into two commands, but added a user option to get the combined display back on `C-x =', would that be acceptable for you? (I'm not saying that I actually want that, but just exploring what our options are here; I don't have any strong feelings on the matter.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no