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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 12dd8410d0a2c2663ce004b7a6b66dd6; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 01:59:58 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87h6vuvoq9.fsf@telefonica.net> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:32:30 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21161 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255263 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > Right. The part about the z-order not changing just makes the problem > worse. > > For instance: let's suppose that Emacs window is hidden by some other > application's window, (Konsole for instance) that also has the focus. > When I switch desktops Emacs will steal the focus, but otherwise the > screen's appearence will not change, which makes me think that Konsole > still has the focus, then I start typing but the input go to Emacs, and > this too often causes a mess. > > Same thing could happen even when Emacs' window is visible, of course. > After all, the user does not expect that switching desktops changes the > focus to certain application's window. > > As for the proposed workaround, discovering that you have to set > icon-title-format when you change frame-title-format is a bit > problematic. Too many users don't read PROBLEMS, less so for behaviors > that worked fine for ages. Well, the problem isn't that frame-title-format worked, it's that icon-title-format did not work for a very long time. > Po: I can open a bug report on KDE, if you wish, although the technical > issue is out of my depth and the user-facing description is too vague, > so if you can provide a description of what Emacs is doing under the > hood that causes KDE to give it the focus, it surely will help. I would recommend saying: Window in another desktop ends up focused upon returning to that desktop if it changes WM_NAME and _NET_WM_NAME while in an iconic state.