From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: materus213@gmail.com, 67393@debbugs.gnu.org,
stefankangas@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 20:17:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5pym3zb.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83edfa9k1y.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Consider that some command opens files one by one in sequence and one of
>> these files has auto save data. `after-find-file' will pause that
>> command, display the message, block Emacs (not allowing user to do
>> anything), and then continue running the command. User has no chance to
>> do anything about the auto save recovery until the command is finished
>> and also has to wait extra few seconds while Emacs is blocked.
>> (This is a real case I encountered with M-x org-agenda)
>
> Such a command, if it existed, should perhaps provide a better
> opportunity for the users, like prompt them for whether to recover
> from each autosave file before continuing to the next one.
May you please elaborate how a command calling of `find-file' or similar
can provide such prompt?
> But I was talking about "C-x C-f", the subject of this bug report,
> where such a problem doesn't exist. By talking about a different
> command you simply change the subject, which doesn't help to make the
> discussion constructive.
Fair. My reply was more to
(when (and warn msg)
(message "%s" msg)
(or not-serious (sit-for 1 t))))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
rather than to the original bug report.
But I am not sure if it is worth it to open a brand-new bug report about
`find-file' used from complex commands.
>> In contrast, what I propose would make sure that the message is
>> displayed for at least some period of time after the command finishes.
>
> Imagine a command that needs the user to respond within a short time
> interval, after which the message becomes irrelevant, because the
> situation changed in a way that the information there is not longer
> pertinent. Like in those mythical Mission Impossible movies: this
> message will auto-destruct in 5 seconds. How will leaving all of
> those message on display help in that case?
I consider such situation worth a full interactive prompt, not limited
to 5 seconds.
For example, C-x C-f could prompt about recovering from backup file, if
such file is detected.
>> Moreover, if multiple files have auto save data, messages about all
>> these files will be displayed together without a need to dig into
>> *Messages* buffer.
>
> "Dig into *Messages*" is a strange phrase to hear from a veteran Emacs
> user. I'd expect looking in *Messages* to be your second nature.
It is not.
> Some users even have the habit of leaving *Messages* constantly on
> display -- there's your "leave messages on display" proposal already
> available if someone wants that.
After `set-multi-message' became a thing, I no longer need to consult
*Messages* often. `set-multi-message' was really an eye-opener on how
much useful information I miss when messages are coming in quick
succession.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-25 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-23 0:28 bug#67393: 29.1; Slow to open file if autosave exists materus213
2023-11-23 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 14:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-23 14:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 17:23 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-23 18:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:34 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-24 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 16:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 17:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:17 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-12-27 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 13:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-27 17:20 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-27 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-28 7:57 ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 16:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-16 17:43 ` Juri Linkov
2024-01-16 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-17 16:48 ` Juri Linkov
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