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Sun, 04 Aug 2024 22:04:33 +0800 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:289750 Archived-At: EZ> When someone gets presented these messages, they are panicking. So they shouldn't have to go looking around their keyboard to find the "n" key, when all along any other key (except "y") would work the same, except the 'information hoarders' won't tell them that, because "Well, it doesn't matter, because they won't get burnt anyway."