From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: when options)mule)set-coding-system is unselectable Date: 27 Jul 2002 04:41:05 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <878z3yi5ni.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87heixepdh.fsf@jidanni.org> <7263-Sat20Jul2002212329+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027720214 10887 127.0.0.1 (26 Jul 2002 21:50:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17YCyS-0002pU-00 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:50:12 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [199.232.76.164]) by hermes.netfonds.no (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6QLoWff011586 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:50:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17YCyk-0001n5-00; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbox.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.54] helo=mailbox2.ucsd.edu) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17YCxX-0001gv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) by mailbox2.ucsd.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6QLnBQo078218 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:49:10 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:49:10 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: h149.s13.ts32.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 21 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: h149.s13.ts32.hinet.net (163.32.13.149) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1027720150 33111133 163.32.13.149 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 X-MailScanner: Passed Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2925 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2925 >> I do find-file and notice i've found the file in the wrong coding >> system. >> >> So naturally I go to options>mule>set-coding-system Eli> Wrong move. You should use "C-x RET c" before "C-x C-f" instead. Eli> That's because the file is already decoded by the time it is Eli> displayed, and so no tinkering with options>mule>set-coding-system Eli> will make any difference as to how it is displayed. OK, this is exactly what the user needs to know at that point. Can we somehow arrange to get your above sentences told to the user when he goes reaching for that button, instead of just finding, of all the buttons, amazingly, just the one he thinks he needs has its lights turned off, closed for business, a dead end, bad luck, "there is something wrong with me", "I am a bad user". Eli> (The reason the options>mule>set-coding-system option is disabled is Eli> probably because Emacs decided the file was in raw-text.) -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780