From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#1770: 23.0.60; (message-check 'illegible-text ...) fails on eight-bit chars Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:41:58 +0000 Message-ID: <878wpmdc9l.fsf@liv.ac.uk> References: <87k59d4apn.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reply-To: Dave Love , 1770@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231387673 12739 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2009 04:07:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 04:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "1770@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com" <1770@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, "emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org" To: Reiner Steib Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 08 05:09:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKmCd-0003Fj-D8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:09:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46719 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKmBN-0007AU-1l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:07:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKgUv-0000AH-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKgUs-00009u-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39593 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKgUs-00009q-Lc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:54414) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKgUr-0007YQ-Dx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n07M3OOd030253; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:03:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n07Lo3pZ026782; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:50:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Dave Love Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , Gnus Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1770 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123136447825431 (code B ref -1); Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Jan 2009 21:41:18 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n07LfB4s025423 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:41:12 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:36083 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg87-0007MK-0A for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:39:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg9F-0005dY-Tj for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:41:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mxa.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.59]:38386) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg9F-0005dC-He for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:41:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailhuba.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.36]) by mxa.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg9C-00019n-QV for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:41:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mailhuba.liv.ac.uk) by mailhuba.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg9C-0007DP-OV; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:41:06 +0000 Original-Received: from pc102091.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.102.91] helo=albion) by mailhuba.liv.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LKg9C-0007DM-IH; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:41:06 +0000 Original-Received: from dlove by albion with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LKgA2-0001M3-67; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:41:58 +0000 X-Draft-From: ("nnimap+imap.liv.ac.uk:Misc" 3318) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:03:31 -0500 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:06:54 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23905 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23661 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > In Emacs 23, (char-charset char) returns `eight-bit'. Is adding > eight-bit next to eight-bit-graphic sufficient? The comment (by Dave > Love, CC-ed if I got X-Debbugs-CC right) seems to suggest that there's > more to be done. You should ask handa about that and other Mule issues. Experience shows it's not helpful for me to explain. There were various things like that I left unfixed for Mule 6 (for various reasons) five years ago, or whenever it was. By the way, `undecable' should be `undecodable' in the comment, which may only apply in Emacs 21 -- I don't know. I think there are various things wrong with `message-fix-before-sending'. The one I remember is it objecting to stuff in non-text inline MIME parts, e.g. if you try to use application/octet-stream for a Lisp backtrace.