From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38173: describe-variable: Also tell user *where* variable was changed Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:45:21 +0800 Message-ID: <878solyfr2.8.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87pnhxyjxp.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="115580"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 38173@debbugs.gnu.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 12 03:47:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMD4-000Twu-Tj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:47:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58762 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMD3-0007yt-4M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:47:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMCt-0007yl-Cu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMCs-0002Is-Fn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMCs-0002I9-8H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMCr-0000Q2-VT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87pnhxyjxp.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38173 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38173-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38173.15735268141595 (code B ref 38173); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38173) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2019 02:46:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMCi-0000Pb-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:46:53 -0500 Original-Received: from caracal.ash.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.222.30]:5745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iUMBT-0000NE-Lv for 38173@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:46:49 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D04B580D59; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-8-64.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.8.64]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 23E93580FF7; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:45:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:45:31 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Trail-Society: 4918562f73132cd0_1573526731361_2135196822 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1573526731361:3171338360 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1573526731361 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43BE80EB5; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:45:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=GnlEt606hhwZl7yyNZ WPyM9EYHg=; b=n7I21tnxMsNhikq5XBK11mWcuFd09ZIqGiDIC1VMm42yH+b7/D bzas5mgcyNBKIhpKt0I1g+pCN/2pRhkkcBXjgNKtmRY/g8EfiNc28vaik+DwpHe+ ekcmsBLbilDlcKCmj5u++iBmk1sJMvDjnItYmMFvPG6q0q46ITGVb6xUQ= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-62-142.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.62.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a89.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B09B80E98; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:45:25 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a89 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171448 Archived-At: OK, here is another example read-buffer-completion-ignore-case is a variable defined in =E2=80=98= C source code=E2=80=99. Its value is t Original value was nil It's like telling users "you transferred $123 from your bank account" but not telling users who they transferred it to.