From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38187: 27.0.50; No mouse-wheel scaling on images Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <878soemc79.fsf@marxist.se> References: <87tv79ksuz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zhgy62u8.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2we7r90.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfse5w04.fsf@gnu.org> <87a78u7ags.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="177438"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38187@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 22:22:14 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iWRzp-000k1W-JO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tqICEkOad4r0app933z0yoZefFP94U6YqOP++11JBRo=; b=XYU6+BakAK0t2kkUNHIDk+hY9M aDerXjZkk4348Fpp4UeUzCTd4R5Mclo0xQnlIMUoeORH+NDelUbAxkNBW8oLw8pU0ZLbT7M8BjRy6 y16F6zmB6GuSCrMHeArT+ZOZvnX5+d0vcOGP9N0r1wejp7UP1W/wjULaX/fQYB58i79+S24GncTtc yy88YXfRx9bYOey7mObADbET2V4EnKChtnEMj3pDjGqcFBQdBYuArybpcHfDzOItWL/M0lfRPohJi wgXLdmpZ0/jJj7KsKh61/ICcmoN7F9rMPpbSvIEHQwhnREolBvJK7Kk9I13D+/SyyPSkQflqRRa5U W0BmR3aQ==; Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:38088 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iWRyd-000rOW-V4; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:21:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a78u7ags.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:07:31 +0100") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171865 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> AFAIU, that's not what the OP wanted. He wanted to see _all_ images >> be scaled proportionally to the text scaling, regardless of where the >> mouse pointer is located. > > Ah; yes, I agree that that would be confusing. FWIW, I think the opposite. I think that zooming text, images and all buffer content together should be the default. I believe that it would feel both natural and familiar, especially to new users, since that's how e.g. web browsers, LibreOffice and evince, etc. works. And if we do that, why then not call this functionality "zooming"? That nomenclature is fairly well-established and therefore easier to understand for new users, I think. Of course, if we don't do such a change, it makes no sense to introduce the word "zooming". Then "change font size" or "change image size" is a better description of what is going on. (That also reminds me that, IMO, text-scale-increase/decrease should be renamed to font-size-increase/decrease. The current names are not very discoverable; when one wants to change the font size, and says: `M-x font TAB'. At the very least, we should have such defaliases.) Best regards, Stefan Kangas