bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Bastien]

C-h C-e shows an info page explaining how to find extra packages.

This page contains a reference to the Emacs Lisp List:
https://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html

The list has not been updated since 2014 and many links are broken.

See these 6 broken links among the 7 first entries:

http://www.davep.org/emacs/5x5.el
http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/comp-e.html
http://www.geocities.com/mkjunker/stuff.html#emacs
http://sites.ugcs.caltech.edu/~shulman/pub/Main/Software/abc-mode.el
http://compbio.uchsc.edu/Hunter/acldoc.el

I simply suggest to remove this link from the Emacs manual and to add
it to emacswiki, if needed.


In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.18)
 of 2020-06-01 built on guerry
Repository revision: 44c0e074f7cb84481785cb49515a4bd7235a074b
Repository branch: emacs-27
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000
System Description: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

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Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY
INOTIFY LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF
XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS PDUMPER
LCMS2 GMP

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Summary

Minor modes in effect:
  which-key-mode: t
  pdf-occur-global-minor-mode: t
  hidden-mode-line-mode: t
  bzg-big-fringe-mode: t
  async-bytecomp-package-mode: t
  pixel-scroll-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  override-global-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/org-feed hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/org-feed
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~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/org-attach-git hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/org-attach-git
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~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/ol-rmail hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/ol-rmail
~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/org-loaddefs hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/org-loaddefs
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~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/ob-fortran hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/ob-fortran
~/install/git/org-mode/lisp/ob-calc hides /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.91/lisp/org/ob-calc
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-- 
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bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 09:48:46 +0200
> 
> C-h C-e shows an info page explaining how to find extra packages.
> 
> This page contains a reference to the Emacs Lisp List:
> https://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html
> 
> The list has not been updated since 2014 and many links are broken.

That command shows a section on our FAQ, so the FAQ needs to be fixed.

> See these 6 broken links among the 7 first entries:
> 
> http://www.davep.org/emacs/5x5.el
> http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/comp-e.html
> http://www.geocities.com/mkjunker/stuff.html#emacs
> http://sites.ugcs.caltech.edu/~shulman/pub/Main/Software/abc-mode.el
> http://compbio.uchsc.edu/Hunter/acldoc.el
> 
> I simply suggest to remove this link from the Emacs manual and to add
> it to emacswiki, if needed.

I don't want to trade our documentation for the wiki, because the
latter is not under our control, and the quality of the information
there cannot be guaranteed.  Why not simply fix our FAQ to be more
up-to-date?

Thanks.

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Stefan Kangas]

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tags 41681 + patch
thanks

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> C-h C-e shows an info page explaining how to find extra packages.
>>
>> This page contains a reference to the Emacs Lisp List:
>> https://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html
>>
>> The list has not been updated since 2014 and many links are broken.
>
> That command shows a section on our FAQ, so the FAQ needs to be fixed.
>
>> See these 6 broken links among the 7 first entries:
>>
>> http://www.davep.org/emacs/5x5.el
>> http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/comp-e.html
>> http://www.geocities.com/mkjunker/stuff.html#emacs
>> http://sites.ugcs.caltech.edu/~shulman/pub/Main/Software/abc-mode.el
>> http://compbio.uchsc.edu/Hunter/acldoc.el
>>
>> I simply suggest to remove this link from the Emacs manual and to add
>> it to emacswiki, if needed.
>
> I don't want to trade our documentation for the wiki, because the
> latter is not under our control, and the quality of the information
> there cannot be guaranteed.  Why not simply fix our FAQ to be more
> up-to-date?

It does seem less than useful these days.

How about just removing the reference, like in the attached patch?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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From c5e4291d74a6ffa2d6b03b2a3658af45ce9928f2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 02:59:11 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Remove reference to Emacs Lisp List from FAQ

* doc/misc/efaq.texi (Packages that do not come with Emacs): Remove
reference to Emacs Lisp List.  (Bug#41681)
---
 doc/misc/efaq.texi | 5 -----
 1 file changed, 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq.texi b/doc/misc/efaq.texi
index 82467048a0..8bdb9f37f0 100644
--- a/doc/misc/efaq.texi
+++ b/doc/misc/efaq.texi
@@ -3464,7 +3464,6 @@ Packages that do not come with Emacs
 @cindex Finding other packages
 @cindex Lisp packages that do not come with Emacs
 @cindex Packages, those that do not come with Emacs
-@cindex Emacs Lisp List
 @cindex Emacs Lisp Archive
 
 The easiest way to add more features to your Emacs is to use the
@@ -3500,10 +3499,6 @@ Packages that do not come with Emacs
 additional extensions.  @uref{https://wikemacs.org, WikEmacs} is an
 alternative wiki for Emacs.
 
-@uref{http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html, The Emacs
-Lisp List (ELL)}, has pointers to many Emacs Lisp files, but at time
-of writing it is no longer being updated.
-
 It is impossible for us to list here all the sites that offer Emacs
 Lisp packages.  If you are interested in a specific feature, then
 after checking Emacs itself and GNU ELPA, a web search is often the
-- 
2.28.0

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:

> It does seem less than useful these days.
>
> How about just removing the reference, like in the attached patch?

Yeah, I agree.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Stefan Kangas]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> How about just removing the reference, like in the attached patch?
>
> Yeah, I agree.

Thanks.  Is it better to install this on master or emacs-27?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>>> How about just removing the reference, like in the attached patch?
>>
>> Yeah, I agree.
>
> Thanks.  Is it better to install this on master or emacs-27?

Even if this is a documentation change, I'd put it on master...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List?

[Stefan Kangas]

close 41681 28.1
thanks

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Even if this is a documentation change, I'd put it on master...

OK, thanks.  Pushed to master as commit 21c580566e and closing this bug.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas